Don’t cry for Conservatives, cry for Canada. No matter who wins this acidic power struggle, democracy and the national interest lose.
With trust shattered and co-operation stillborn, a 7-week-old Parliament is in ruins. Eventually it will be replaced, but already missed is the opportunity for politicians to rise to the demanding occasion of the most threatening financial collapse since the Great Depression.
Stephen Harper missed it first by plunging into gutter politics while the country looked to Ottawa for higher purpose. Now Liberals are taking their turn by putting forward Stéphane Dion, rejected by voters just seven weeks ago, to lead a country desperate for strong yet accommodating leadership.
Canada should abandon the notion of minority government. Whatever party wins in an election should be the government party.
By: Zhou on 十二月 2, 2008 at 1:41 下午
at least Harper can speak and knows what he is talking about whether u like his politics or not. Accommodating leadership??? lol in what sense??? in your one man opinion??? We have disagreed that in the last election. Where have you been??? on Star Trek???
By: evaleung on 十二月 2, 2008 at 1:49 下午
To Zhou, I second your no amigo notion.
By: evaleung on 十二月 2, 2008 at 1:55 下午
生日快樂, 唔好咁百厭, 快高長大.
By: 一台粉絲 on 十二月 2, 2008 at 2:00 下午
Flaherty knows nothing about economic or finace, Harper is a dictator, he wants everyone listen to him, goodbye, your political future is done
By: wenger on 十二月 2, 2008 at 2:04 下午
Flaherty knows nothing about economic or finance, Harper is a dictator, he wants everyone listen to him, goodbye, your political future is done
sign the petition 條link唔得，保守黨有冇辦法搞搞佢？letter to the editor，咁深奧……都係星期六去queen’s park抗議重好
By: 青天葵的原身(不會用粗言穢語的) on 十二月 2, 2008 at 4:52 下午
By: 不准公投 on 十二月 2, 2008 at 4:54 下午
we couple agree with “hungry dog fighting for s…"
expressed among last article
the three parties are legal ( they are not like thailand style ) we’ve never voted the consevative, whose afan policy follows uss’, we disgree strongly
go n d p, leberal & Q go
By: s p t on 十二月 2, 2008 at 5:44 下午
the consevative governmenrt hasn’t done a few good tasks in past 2 years, been spending $ left by the liberal, don’t forget liberal ‘s been very good with deducting nation’s debt, #1 in the G7,……that’s why we think conservative has to be replaced friends, watch national
i don’t think all the guests invited for “issue" are without common sense i agree with their opinion
By: a y t on 十二月 2, 2008 at 6:00 下午
By: 多倫多聽眾 on 十二月 2, 2008 at 6:11 下午
By: 有形之手 on 十二月 2, 2008 at 6:24 下午
“hungry dog fighting for s…” What a good translation of my name. 吾道不孤
By: 餓狗搶屎 on 十二月 2, 2008 at 6:45 下午
根據我本macro textbook (macroeconomics third Canadian edition),馬田做財長時就係靠fiscal contraction(decrease in government spending and increase in taxes)嚟還債，呢樣阿鬼都識啦。哈珀 2007年個 fical expansion 好勁，我想知道佢有冇咁嘅能力可以做到盈餘，搞好經濟。主流同華語網，報紙都有話過半人冇投比哈珀，但我唔明點解可以做政變理由。投得比個黨，自然認同佢嘅理念，又或者對該黨嘅領袖有信心，啱唔啱先？例如魁獨份子投魁人政團，極左個班就投NDP，張三班唔同理念嘅人放埋一齊實過半嫁喎，但係有別於懾政前總理克里田個時嘅多數政府，係個時，全國認同自由黨嘅人佔多數，重係平均，咁先係真真正正叫多數。
By: 青天葵的原身(不會用粗言穢語的) on 十二月 2, 2008 at 7:08 下午
馬田做財長時最叻係減少對省嘅 transfer payments, 好多省冇辦法, 就 download d費用去 cities, 多倫多係最好例子, Jim Flaherty 就手鬆d.
Hunger, next time u open ur mouth, please do ur homework and check ur stats. Go check the poll on Omni last nite. Go do ur own survey on mainstream. Liberal voters are also participating in the rally on Saturday. This is not a Conservative rally. They are calling it ‘democracy rally" all across all mainstream radio stations. U can keep your opinion to urself. It is still a democracy rally and not a conservative rally.
s harper is a tortoise, hides his head when something happen they shouldn’t get oaid ( no paid leave ) for the coming 6 weeks
By: s p t on 十二月 4, 2008 at 2:55 下午
the consevative government is not important, world ( this nation ) keeps turning ( going ) without him for a over a month
By: a y t on 十二月 4, 2008 at 2:58 下午
hey “hungry d.." we’ll go to the supporting event on saturday, we seldom go to downtown though
hard to find parking, many one way roads……
we have to go because it happens sort of " even in a century" might be
By: a y t on 十二月 4, 2008 at 3:03 下午
lol havent we all heard enough of ur kind of nonsense from Dion and Layton? That’s all you guys can come up with. Do you have a point at all?
By: evaleung on 十二月 4, 2008 at 3:07 下午
my family doctor asked me to shout " support the coalition " a few time loudly for him because his clinic opened saturday afternoons
By: v m li on 十二月 4, 2008 at 3:07 下午
shame consevative party shame
By: p t t on 十二月 4, 2008 at 3:08 下午
yesterday, stockwell day denied their plans ( formiming coalition government ) with bloc quebecois twice few years ago, he meant the leader of B Q’s document was " untrue “, i would sue s day for stating one’s dishonesty if i were the leader of B Q
go bloc quebecois go
By: s p t on 十二月 4, 2008 at 3:29 下午
dear " hungry d.. “, i ven’t have time to read yet since last early evening
i can figure out how the posts are in this forum ‘ll read after work any ways
go " hungry d.. " go
By: a y t on 十二月 4, 2008 at 3:44 下午
好處是暫時汵却部份國民對他於急不容緩的防止經濟惡化方案一籌莫展的憤懣. 及求神拜佛經濟在這六星期內不至惡化甚至好轉 🙂
胡亂估計六星期議會真空會否帶來更深層的經濟壞影响是不設實際! 尊重遊戲規則!自求多福! Cash is King !
By: 見龍在田 on 十二月 4, 2008 at 3:58 下午
Dion’s dream is over. It’s time for him to face his party’s mess.
By: Zhou on 十二月 4, 2008 at 4:05 下午
It is very clever for Harper to ask for the prorogue. Super leadership well demonstrated. Apparently he did his research and homework. Traditionally we don’t do much during the holidays anyway; it should do no harm. Let’s wait and see. I just don’t think this should be the place for monopoly.
By: evaleung on 十二月 4, 2008 at 4:44 下午
除咗國民唔會想大選，其實最真嘅係NDP同liberal都冇哂錢去選。妤玩唔玩，冇錢都唔緊要，冇spin doctor 個下先慘，點玩？我於mounties都知道 rally for canada 係乜，指到名queen’s park 12-2,Dec 6,會拉先怪。今朝馮老太講嘢，獨立？只係重覆同鄒至蕙，狄安講同一樣嘢，上次估錯咗台灣總統選舉形勢嘅文世昌講個啲就正常啲。希望哈珀認真諗下經濟方案要點，最好就搞到反對黨冇聲出，睇樓上資料，反對黨只會為奪權而投反對票。
By: 青天葵的原身(不會用粗言穢語的) on 十二月 4, 2008 at 4:48 下午
Stephen Harper should have asked to suspend Parliament for four years.
I have already done my part here. It’s up to them to decide whether they want to continue to live under the rock. And for the die-hard Liberal, do you even have one seat in the parliament from our people? Or do the Liberal even care about YOU?
And for those who are not able to read this anyways, I am doing this here for you, not for me and the Conservative Party. If it takes me painfully 10 times the time to type in Chinese than in English, u wonder why I am killing myself over this.
我知，我意思係黨員中有參議員，有衆議員，亦有普通黨員。參議員支持冇乜代表性？黨魁係要黨員選，但最終黨魁都要對對大選，衆議員嘅支持係咪應該take into consideration 多啲？
By: 青天葵的原身(不會用粗言穢語的) on 十二月 7, 2008 at 11:00 下午
By: whoknows on 十二月 7, 2008 at 11:08 下午
By: whoknows on 十二月 7, 2008 at 11:21 下午
In contrast to what Harper said, the coalition wasn’t undemocratic. But, it doesn’t mean it has earned the support from the public. Meanwhile, Lyton said Harper has locked the door of the Parliament so the MPs can’t voice and cast their vote of non-confidence to the government, suggesting to the public Harper’s request for prorogue wasn’t democratic. The reality is that Harper acted within the legal boundaries and he had as much right to request for the suspension of the Parliament as the opposition parties to form the coalition government. It’s just a game of politics.
Personally, I wouldn’t mind going to the poll again.
By: cytodex on 十二月 7, 2008 at 11:33 下午
By: 本地市民 on 十二月 7, 2008 at 11:36 下午
By: 公投一號（正印） on 十二月 7, 2008 at 11:37 下午
If there is to be no nationwide vote by party members, a caucus vote is the only other option left to find a replacement for Stephane Dion. Dion is expected to resign at a Wednesday caucus meeting, although some Liberals expect he may go as early as Monday.
Under the party constitution, as soon as the leader resigns, the national executive, in consultation with the caucus, can choose an interim leader.
Many Liberals now expect Ignatieff will be chosen Wednesday by caucus as interim leader – to be made permanent by a ratification vote at a previously scheduled May 2 leadership vote.
By: 廁所長 on November 6, 2007
at 10:30 am
話比你知呀!專打維伯,我柏文的水呀,真係黃擒擒架!仆街!我要將的水倒入個濾水壺過濾,好過就咁飲啦,買大大樽十幾蚊個的樽裝水又買唔得咁多,唯有買廿蚊四個嗰的brita pitcher filter,真係好驚中铅毒,中重金屬毒慢性疾病死架!
都係用返BRITA (FILTRE POUR PICHET)唉!
The $1.95/Vote Affair – Stephen Harper shot himself in the foot.
By: mpe on 十二月 8, 2008 at 8:38 上午
By: 公投一號(正印) on 十二月 8, 2008 at 9:26 上午
Jack Layton must resign
None of the other party leaders failed to get the support of at least half of their constituents. Stephen Harper (73.0%), Stéphane Dion (61.7%) and Gilles Duceppe (50.2%) all won their seats democratically. Not so Jack Layton.
Even Jack can’t have it both ways. If the Conservatives are illegitimate because 62.4% of Canadians didn’t vote for them, then Layton is the illegitimate MP for the riding of Toronto-Danforth because 53.2% of voters voted against him. Either getting less than 50% of the votes is sufficient or it’s not. If Jack Layton actually believes that the Harper government must go because a majority of people didn’t vote for them, then he must do the honourable thing and resign his seat in the House of Commons.
Rae also said on Sunday that a closed-door decision by the Liberal caucus and party executives — both of which are top-heavy with Ignatieff supporters — wouldn’t be the right way to choose a permanent leader.
“It can’t simply be a small group of people behind closed doors," he said, adding it would be inappropriate.
邊個眼光淺就重未知，亦從來冇人話過葉禮庭係救世主。李博支持者實會話呢話路，葉禮庭上都唔會執到政，只不過一但大選會有咁嘅能力保住現有議席，李博上就話到明搞聯合政府，佢玩兩三年就玩完，之後選自由黨會創歷史新底席數，為一個係自己票倉名譽掃地嘅人去用個黨嚟賭，加埋賭嘅成數非常高。葉禮庭而家未表哂態，但佢係醒嘅話就唔好搞搞陣，比個預算案過，之後就搞好個黨。至於鄒至蕙，係comfort women motion時我對佢尊敬，但而家對佢極度失望，講同做埋啲嘢都……
All Mr. Dion needs now is to be bitten by his dog, Kyoto, to become the most chronically rejected figure in Canadian politics. He will go down in history as Stephen Harper’s dream rival and his own party’s nightmare.
He devised a carbon-tax platform at odds with the oncoming recession’s energy price collapse, bumbled a television interview at the worst possible moment of the election campaign and, in a final defining image of his hapless leadership, crafted a controversial coalition and produced an amateur-quality video to sell it in a television address, and then, for better or worse, missed the broadcast window.
Shakespeare could not make up a political figure enduring so many multiple tragedies in such short order.
三黨共得60多百份點的支持是要各按其職,各行其事的抗衡政治,三個埋念不劃一的政策,三個不劃一的選民支持,三個不劃一的要求,三個不劃一的認受性,全國人民如何看見劃一的政策呢?一個小家庭常因子女的分配不平均(感性和理性層面),經上家無寧日,對此一國政策的運作,無論對內,對外都是從亂開始,再加上個人的私慾,害是多於益的,真不明白不劃一的政策,何來劃一的數據呢?私慾數據,過氣數據,要進步,看今天,昨天的我是死的,今天的我是活的,不面對今天的政客實在落後的廢物,you are out!