By: 今天，至少多倫多的華人會明白什么是西方民主了 on 四月 12, 2008 at 12:03 上午
That is the PR of China, you still have relationship with somebody, you can alive, $300000 …. really a joke …that.. is why we don’t belive communist…I agree China have a great improvement…but you can speak louldly in China what ever you like.. shit.
His timing and duration of sentence may suggest that there is some political consideration and even negotiations behind the door between Hu’s fraction against the old power led by former President Jiang. After all, he represents someone from the less influential Shanghai Gang which he once had the backing of Jiang. Otherwise, he could/should have been executed 18 times under normal circumstances.
By: cytodex on 四月 12, 2008 at 10:11 下午
Could those folks that go to Ottawa tomorrow please change your banners from “Message from Chinese Community…" to “Message from Chinese visitors, visa students, guests, and others who own Canadian passports and love the benefits and freedoms here but brainwashed to feel pissed about having the West constantly back-mouth China"
I for one do not authorize nor endorse such representation. By the way, when you get there, in midst of all emotional chanting and protests, please use whatever has left in your brain to remember two things.
First, Canada allows her residents the right to protest even against her government. The country you are rooting for can not.
Second, I hope the organizers have thought about the logistics when 3000 zombies with one “purpose“ gather presumably in the Parliament. Otherwise, I am afraid that the surrounding people/businesses have to find ways to deal with the noise (for you are unlikely to protest in English or French) and with the messes when tons of people flock to the nearby washrooms and with the litter or even kid’s wastes after your departure.
By: cytodex on 四月 12, 2008 at 10:38 下午
wow, everyday you ask for more buses, how could they handle this order? You are not the only customers, they have other clients to serve, man! Please be reasonable! If you go reserve tables at a restaurant, and then keep adding people to more than their capacity, how could this take your order? right? Don’t say everything is political pressure. If you want respect from other people, please respect others first.
By: LMF on 四月 12, 2008 at 10:53 下午
足球迷: you still read Singtao? I read the news in Ming Pao too. These so-called “representing chinese community" organizations are asking too much lar……..what if they can’t come back to Toronto in time to pick up the kids to school? All the parents would be up in arms!
By: Wenger (I'm not French, don't boycott me!) on 四月 12, 2008 at 10:58 下午
I just read Singtao and Mingpao at the internet for a few minutes as daily routine。 I feel very bad that those people representing Chinese community here as many Chinese in GTA may not agree with them。
Now that China is strong, I take pride being Chinese, people around me want to know more about China, Chinese words, culture, how to do business with China, my company wants to open a branch in China, their kids want to learn Chinese…I cannot conveniently take the glory on one hand, then, on the other hand bash China. I wish China will improve more and more, I will lament that it will be good if China do this do that…but when I see China being ganged up trashed by the media like that, that is not cool!
To love my mother country does not mean I support everything that she has done. Just like I love my parents, but not always agree with what they do. However, if someone hurt them, I will for sure stand up for them, that is called love, and cannot be conveniently turn on/off.
To the person who claimed that those marching to Ottawa do not represent him, that’s fine. I for one am grateful that they show their love to the motherland publicly, wish I could do that too.
China used to be great, so Chinese looked at all other nations’ people as barbarians or low standard, and need Chinese to teach/show them how to govern and how to live life. We all know the result of such arrogance- the down turn of China in global status for the past 500 years.
When China down turned, European countries, due to the spice route, was blocked by Muslim countries, they started their exploration, which it also included murdering of hundreds million of native people living in land being “discovered". Western countries became great, so Western people looked at all other nations’ people as barbarians and low standard, and need Western people to teach/show them how to govern and how to live life. History is always repeating itself…
Though I feel bad when Western bad mouth China, but I’m beginning to think this is a new kind of check and monitor that is very helpful to the betterment of China, as long as it is not about splitting up China.
By: 又愛又恨:黑白不分 on 四月 13, 2008 at 5:29 下午
你凭什么代表我们 ? 我们随时可以买起百万部
巴士 。我们淹没渥太华也可以 。
By: 大多数民族 on 四月 13, 2008 at 5:40 下午
NED, your link is very informative, as least this cannot be fake-
…According to declassified US intelligence documents released in the late 1990s, “for much of the 1960s, the CIA provided the Tibetan exile movement with $1.7 million a year for operations against China, including an annual subsidy of $180,000 for the Dalai Lama.”…But the prime interest of Tibet for Washington today is its potential to act as a lever to destabilize and blackmail the Beijing Government…
I did read it, but it can’t lead to generalize the conclusion that some people [don’t need a reason] to be opponents of Chinese/kill Chinese. It in fact pinpoints political reasons (using ‘Washington’ which should means US government). Think about the posting of the blogger, 中國人, 站起來! and the arguments I put forward.
By: Cat Lover on 四月 14, 2008 at 1:58 上午
By: 無間道 on 四月 14, 2008 at 6:21 上午
Cat Lover 君:
When Shakespeare said, “The world is but a stage and we are mere actors upon it”, that’s because he wrote novels and plays. When it comes to the geopolitical arena, every major player has to secure its own interests and I’d say, “The world is but a chess game and the pawn nations are mere chess pieces on it while the players run the show.”
It is a well known fact that CIA or the NATO allies in general, especially in the 60’s and 70’s, exerted and still exert their influence on the world stage by ways of political assassination, supporting dissidents of the communist nations (such as Dalai Lama and defected Soviet spies), and making numerous attempts to create chaotic situations to destabilize opposing regimes that pose threats to America. Therefore, in a way, I understand the motive behind the 9/11 attacks but do I empathize with the Islamic extremists, let alone sympathize with these “people”?
If you read the link posted by NED, F. William Engdahl uncovers quite a number of strategic moves used by Washington in an attempt to establish military bases around the sensitive regions in Eurasia/Indochina. In essence, financially supporting Dalai Lama and promoting him as some kind of God, in effect, put China in an awkward position when China is certainly his “hunter”. But….think about it, why did Dalai Lama become a dissident in the first place? Why didn’t he stay in Tibet, which is, sadly but true, a part of China now but instead turned himself into an “exile leader”?
Engdahl explains the ugly facts of the west, but let’s raise the curtain and see some “biased propaganda from the west” on how China places its bets on evil regimes like the Taliban, Burma, and Iran! If selling weapons and financially supporting these indisputably rogue governments are the way to achieve balance of power, I’d say one has to turn a blind eye on what these governments are doing to their peoples before supporting China’s stance on its geopolitical moves. Even reckoning that there isn’t a lot of room to maneuver in this west-dominated world, one has to be pretty heartless to support other totalitarian regimes that come to no one’s surprise as carrying the label of evil!
Foolishness, like these so-called Chinese-Canadians who barely speak English or French to bus to Ottawa en mass to demonstrate against Harper’s policy on Tibet, is just an understatement to describe these people and their puppet master!
By: 絕對要鄙視西方媒體﹐咁樣辦媒體，卑鄙又賤格！【圖】 on 四月 14, 2008 at 8:25 上午
Sure, I’d be delighted to 聽一聽反藏獨人士的看法. Granted that I’ve seen quite a few already, including the youtube video possibly made by Beijing government or one of its highly-controlled media outlets. If anyone already forgot, let me refresh your memory. It’s the one that flashes images of the maps of China dating all the way back to a few dynasties ago, with captions such as: " Don’t you fxxxing get it, Tibet is and always has been a fxxxing part of China!"
If you buy that, we’d be having pigtails behind our skulls; women should be submissive to men, dictatorship should be the norm, and expansionism/imperialism should be the ultimate goal of every leader (sorry, make it emperor) of the world’s nations.
Let’s right the wrongs. Don’t be a fool and just let go. When a nation is to be aspired upon, people and nations will come to you and form strategic alliances. When it is not, forced partnership becomes an abusive relationship and it’s got to end! However, referencing F. William Engdahl article, this abusive relationship can hardly come to an end, given the immensity of strategic importance and resources in this piece of land some might refer to as “Shangrila".
Hypersensitivity on other races’ and nations’ finger pointing invariably and conveniently turns into a kind of hysteria we call xenophobia. Be wary of other nations’ prying eyes is natural, but , when excessively done, China will turn into a nation of paranoia.
Sure, the media in the West are quite biased in their reports. But why? Why France, Germany, English all gang up on China? What are they so against about the Chinese? If China is so victimized here by the Tibetan separatists, why China kicked all reporters out of Tibet and instead fed them their version of “truth”? Why not let the world see how violent the Tibetans were first hand. For that, China is its own worst enemy.
When one says China is strong and making gradual progress towards democracy. Then, ask those poor peasants who were evicted from their properties and farmlands without proper compensation yet face constant repression from the corrupt officials; those expendable miners whose safety and lives mean less than the minerals deposit they produce; those aging people in rural areas who can’t afford the daily food under skyrocketing inflation, let alone enough money to seek proper medical treatment; and those children whose parents don’t have enough money even to feed themselves or to pay for their tuition fees. Be empathetic, if some of your relatives belongs to one of them, would you still praise China and say they (those people) are just a small price for economic prosperity?
When measuring a country’s success, I would care less about how many high rise building are being in a city; or how many metric tones of cement are poured in relation to the other countries’? Take a close look at the basic needs and wellbeing of the people, especially those that are the less fortunate. Are they better off now or worse off than in Mao’s time?
cytodex “尋找它鄉的臭蟲" is a very good analogy. However, what about bugs being planted by foreign countries? The world is a big pie in terms of resources, all countries are completing to get the most. Communism, Capitalism, Colonization, Globalization, … There is no such thing as evil or good countries, this is propaganda, all are about gaining power over others. In order to do this, bugs are planted, not just home grown🙂
By: 又愛又恨:黑白不分 on 四月 14, 2008 at 3:02 下午
to the people who went to ottawa yesterday,
i am wondering how come there was not any activity ( april 13 ottatwa ) in beijing, shanghai……
u guys went for using the freedom here, besides,
for the travel coupons too, we would go ( for getting coupons ) when didn’t have to work
Thanks, 毓民…I mean… 毓仁 for the detailed account of 拉薩 and 西藏 in general. Having read your rundown on 西藏’s current situation, I think I would have missed all those details even if I were there in person…
Oh, 毓…仁, you have a date set for coming over to Toronto again?
Stay in Canada… and says LOVE PR of China.. it is the time to go back… Why you come to Canada… for what.. taste the insult … Ha ha. you know.. Why we stay in Canada… because we can talk whatever we like…nobody will arrest you.
By: Francis on 四月 15, 2008 at 10:37 下午
The Guardian and the Daily Mirror reported Tuesday that Ferdinand had come to an agreement much more quickly this time and that his new contract will be worth as much as 120,000 pounds ($239,000 Canadian) a week.
Does he worth that much$? I don’t think so! Man U overpaid him!
By: Wenger on 四月 15, 2008 at 11:34 下午
Ferdinand打得最好是剛從West Ham轉會去Man U 的頭兩三年，之後便水準下降，他當然不值120,000 pounds/week，不過曼聯大把金錢，overpaid 都無所謂啦，最重要是兵馬足，爭標才有望。