發文作者:kahoo | 二月 12, 2008

蘇賡哲: 以馬屁報怨

多倫多維園阿伯,不少吃過中共苦頭。相信在這網站的舔共派,也有這種人:

中國知識分子,在備受專制統治者迫害後,常有超越常理的反應。柏楊坐了蔣家十年冤獄,家破人老始被釋後,竟在報上「衷心祝福蔣經國先生在天之靈」、力讚蔣「傑出」、「英明」,「胸襟寬容」,並悔惜不曾和蔣單獨合照。李敖批評他,說是以馬屁報怨。

名畫家龐薰琴,被中 共打成右派,殘酷迫害二十二年,在平反大會上,他大聲朗誦了一首自己剛剛寫好的詩,沒有怨言、沒有悲傷,只有對黨的一片忠誠。同樣被中共 囚禁二十二年的陸鏗,獲釋後赴美,說他「一點也不恨中共,也絕不反共」,接著大吹中共領導人如何愛國愛民,還說他坐牢是「大時代的歷史悲劇」而己。胡平指 出,這是「把嚴酷的迫害推給莊嚴而抽象的歷史,從而免除了迫害者的責任。

傅國涌為香港一位名報人寫的傳記記載著:五一年,金庸的父親以 「抗糧、窩藏土匪、圖謀殺害幹部」的罪名被處決,噩耗傳到香港,金庸哭了三天三夜。三十一年後,他成為中南海座上客時,「表示自已並不痛恨殺了他父親的軍 隊,在歷史大變動的時期,這樣的悲劇是難以避免的」。同樣把迫害推給歷史,免除了迫害者責任,回港後同樣對中共領導推崇備至。八五年,中共宣告他父親原來 是無罪的,予以平反。他去信表示感激異常,「判決家父無罪,存歿俱感」。

我難以明白的是,如果父親有罪而被殺,那是立場有別,我站在父親立場,當然父仇不共戴天。但無罪而被殺,則不是立場問題,更應報仇追究,何以反倒去感謝殺無罪之人的政權?真想極都想不明白。


Responses

  1. 對 [怨] ,可以有多種反應–
    [以德報怨];[以恕報怨];[以直報怨];[以怨報怨]以及李敖批柏楊的[以馬屁報怨].

  2. 當歪理變真理, 謬論變常規, 過錯亦不能平反之時, 一個民族還有淨餘幾多專嚴可言?

    如自認不愛國, 當然卽被千夫 (改正: 應該十三億夫) 所指。 但如果一出世就無權選擇自己配偶, 而嫁娶之後發覺暴發的丈夫人格上其實一文不值, 所以自認不愛丈夫, 這又是不是有罪呢?

    有理性的中國人真是可悲。 一方面希望中國强大, 但亦了解西方社會憂慮到中國強大時便有「心中無劍、手中有劍」式的歪理頓然抬頭的理由。 心底掙扎的過程, 真是可用以做拍奧斯卡得獎電影的提材啊!

  3. 柏楊 and others are typical cases of Stockholm Syndrome:

    Stockholm Syndrome describes the behavior of kidnap victims who, over time, become sympathetic to their captors. The name derives from a 1973 hostage incident in Stockholm, Sweden. At the end of six days of captivity in a bank, several kidnap victims actually resisted rescue attempts, and afterwards refused to testify against their captors.

    On February 4, 1974 Patricia Campbell Hearst (Granddaughter of William Randolph Hearst) was kidnapped by the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA) and held captive for over two months in cramped studio apartment near the University of San Francisco. She changed her name to Tania. Her part in the armed robbery of the Hibernia Bank took place in San Francisco’s Sunset District. She was finally arrested in San Francisco. Her defense attorney F. Lee Bailey lost the case because he permitted her to take the stand. She had experienced Stockholm Syndrome.

  4. Forgiveness- Ian Stewart
    http://journalismforum.fims.uwo.ca/keynotes.aspx#stewart
    On Jan. 10, 1999 his reporting career came to a sudden end when a single bullet from an AK-47 fired by a boy soldier in Sierra Leone punched through Stewart’s skull and lodged at the back of his brain. That wound left him partially paralyzed and clinging to a 20 percent chance of survival. In his book, Ambushed (Algonquin Books of Chapel Hill, 2002) Stewart tells of his recovery both from the bullet and from crippling emotional scars that afflicted him after years of witnessing humanity’s carnage and destruction. Now a doctoral student at the University of Michigan, Stewart is focusing his energies on studying the effects of trauma on former child soldiers, their families and communities in Sierra Leone and Liberia.

  5. 咦, 是否蘇博士預計程翔將會感謝中共領導人將他監禁呢?

  6. 維園伯伯嘅行為,係政治心理學上有冇解釋嫁?佢哋啲思維,我真係代入唔到。以德報怨????

  7. 不放手名和利,
    並且刻意追求名利.

    人性可以變換和轉變,
    人是唯一拿手善變動物.

  8. 很想做真正中國人,但 100% 不願做共產黨统治的中國人,在沒有選擇下唯有做加籍華人。唉!!

  9. 以德報怨:

    There is only one person who has done that, Jesus.

  10. 嘩,獨孤丙,比你一講,心都寒埋!阿程係下一個?!唔會啩?

  11. During American Civil War, 600,000 soldiers died, an undetermined number or about 50,000 of civilian casualties.
    In the face, the cause of war was:
    anti-slavery North vs slave-owning South
    The real cause of war was about politics and money:
    the economic merits of free labor vs. slave plantations
    With so many people died of the political greed & money, why the families who had members died of the Civil war still called/call themselves US citizens? Why they did/do not seek revenge 報仇追究 on the US government?

    Never forget, does not mean to seek revenge. Happiness is a result of forgiveness.

    Romans 12:19
    Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.

  12. (我難以明白的是,如果父親有罪而被殺,那是立場有別,我站在父親立場,當然父仇不共戴天。但無罪而被殺,則不是立場問題,更應報仇追究,何以反倒去感謝殺無罪之人的政權?真想極都想不明白。)

    請問蘇博士, 金庸先生可以如何去追究 ? 難道請所有有關人事向金庸父親靈位扣頭謝罪。或者交與金庸處置 ? 在一個極權政權下除了嘆句奈何, 又可以如何呢 ? 金庸先生在此政權下打滾多年, 他會不明白嗎 ?

  13. 林毅夫 Justin Yifu Lin, on February 4, 2008 he was named the new Chief Economist and Senior Vice President of the World Bank.

    While an officer in the Republic of China Army in Taiwan, Lin was held up as a model soldier for choosing to be in the army instead of going to University. Lin was considered as a “superstar" officer, the army had already paid for his MBA. He defected to Mainland China on May 17, 1979, reportedly by swimming from the island of Kinmen 金門 in Taiwan, to the nearby island of Xiamen 廈門 in the Fujian Province 福建 Mainland China. At the time, he left behind his wife and child who were living in Taiwan. They were later reunited when Lin went to study in the United States. Taiwan originally listing him as missing but in 2000 issued an order for his arrest on charges of desertion.

    He was one of the first PRC citizens to receive a PhD in economics from a US universit, and is a leading Chinese economist; he serves as a consultant to major international organizations, and is on the editorial board of several international academic economics journals.

    He said: 「基於對文化、歷史、政治、經濟和軍事的認識,我覺得回歸祖國是歷史的必然,也是最佳的選擇方案。做為一個台灣人,我深愛這塊生我、養我的地方,我願意為它的繁榮幸福奉獻一生的精力,但是做為一個中國人,我覺得台灣除了是台灣人的台灣之外,台灣還應該能對中國的歷史發揮更大的貢獻。」「我深深地相信,中華民族是有希望的,有前途的,而做為一個中國人,是值得驕傲的,是可以抬頭挺胸昂立於世界之上的。」「我回顧了鴉片戰爭後中國的歷史,一直在思考如何盡快使中國變得富強起來。上世紀七十年代末,尼克森訪華、中日邦交正常化和中美建交之後,我越來越意識到中國富強的希望在大陸這邊。作為一名中國人,要為祖國作出貢獻,必須去大陸。」

    For the same course of patriotic to China, why:
    some people ended up with an avenging mind?
    some people ended up like 程翔?
    some people ended up like 林毅夫?
    Why people always complains about what the country can/can’t do to him/her? Why he/she is not thinking about what he/she should be doing to the country, like 林毅夫?

    I think this is all in our mind, if you want to be constructive, want to do something good to your country, we have to move on and do it. After all the present Chinese government is NOT running by the guys who did all those bad things in the past. If we want China to move forward for the betterment, we ourselves HAVE to move on too.

    http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9E%97%E6%AF%85%E5%A4%AB
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Yifu_Lin
    http://www.macrochina.com.cn/prize/brt/linyifu.shtml

  14. Body Part Reposition Syndrome describes the behavior of using another part of the body to substitute the default behavior due to extreme anxiety. For the 維園阿伯 case, they use their a_s to think instead of their brain.
    For fast relief, listen to Power Politics but not its replacement because the new one could make it even worse or have increased risk of mentally death. Unfortunately, Power Politics is no longer available. Let me advise 維園阿伯 to seek help from Dr So.

  15. 在此呼喚所有自認愛國人士,應該响應林毅夫提議,作為一名中國人,要為祖國作出貢獻,必須去大陸。所以沒有必要做加籍華人啦!速速買機票回國作出貢獻。

  16. 二叔公,三太公,四姑娘,五姨丈開枱,開頭四姑娘烏雲蓋月,輸到脫褲,誰知最後一鋪,峰迴路轉,自摸絕章發財,糊出十三么,反敗為勝,四姑娘笑口吟吟:今次有怨報怨,有仇報仇!

  17. “舔共派”呢個名改得好,維妙維肖,描寫細膩,聯想到狗吃屎,伸出條俐舔米田共,為之“舔共”

  18. 連殺父之仇都可以遺忘,必然獲得利益/賠償足以彌補/掩蓋哀痛,局外人難以了解其理由與苦衷。假如毛都收唔到條,金庸一定反共重勁過蘇博士。如此類推,中共梗係一條毛都未俾過蘇博士同埋家豪喇。

  19. 又愛又恨:黑白不分兄:

    就你對林毅夫先生的讚賞, 我有如下的看法:

    林先生對外宣稱非法離開台灣投奔中國大陸的理由, 當然是堂皇的. 但他抛妻棄子的行為, 除非當時背後有更大的理由, 如本身生命有危險, 那是不可取的. 說甚麼為國(已不說他當時的國是中華民國了)/同胞效力, 即使是真的, 那也是他為自己個人的發展而作出的自私行為, 是不值得恭維的. 無可否認他判斷準確, 一早已知自己在學術上必有成就. 現在, 他得償素願, 名聲遠播, 如果他還在台灣, 他有機會登上世界銀行的高位嗎? 成為第一個華人得到那職位的美譽嗎? 他已得到他的報酬, 我認為除非有別的資料支持, 他並不值得我們推崇.

    足球迷兄:

    各人有各人的背境因素, 那些自稱回到中國大陸才能為國家作貢獻, 而在其客觀條件下, 能夠回到中國大陸生活的, 適隨他便. 我們這些因為客觀條件不能/願回國者, 在我們的生活地方, 盡自己的本份就是了. 誰說在國外居住不能為國家作出貢獻, 林的宣稱去台的理由, 最客氣的說法是只為自己自私的行為開脫而已! 難道全世界的華人也要回到中國大陸居住不成? 那時, 中國政府要將我們推出國門也來不及, 說我們在國外才能更好給祖國作出貢獻呢!

  20. Each wrong act brings with it its own anesthetic, dulling the conscience and blinding it against further light, and sometimes for years.

    – Rose Macaulay (Letters to a Friend)

  21. 柏楊, 金庸等是非驢非馬, 是變色龍.
    對自己也沒有起碼的道德要求,
    追求名利, 善與惡就在一線之間.

  22. 大丈夫 – 關正傑

    曲︰劉家昌
    詞︰黃霑

    男兒一生要經過 世上磨練共多少
    男兒一生要幾次 做到失落與心焦
    我有無邊毅力 捱盡困難考驗
    立折披荊斬棘心裡 更願永不折腰

    大丈夫一生要經過 困難磨練共多少
    大丈夫一生要幾次 落魄失望與心焦
    冷雨狂風歷盡 人格更光耀
    立地頂天男子心裡 磊落永不折腰

  23. Cat Lover,

    林毅夫 did not 抛妻棄子, they were later reunited when Lin went to study in the United States, and he is still with this same wife 陳雲英 right now. We have a lot of folks doing the same after immigrated to other countries, the husbands go back to HK most of the time. Also, a lot of folks (mainland China, Vietnam, HK…), they swam, they smuggled themselves to get to HK, Canada, US, or other country alone for years/decades, hoping to get the family together later.

    While 林毅夫 “他已得到他的報酬", his acts also contribute to modern China and contribute to the world. If we assume he had hidden reasons to leave Taiwan, can one be forgiven of what he did? Now he is doing contribution to himself, his family, his country, and the world. You can’t fake this, as it was 1982 while Theodor W Schulz, 1980 Noble Economic prize winner, was visiting China, Theodor noticed 林, and recommended 林 to study in US with him. 1986年林毅夫取得了芝加哥大學經濟系博士學位,博士論文《中國的農村改革:理論與實證》被舒爾茨稱讚為「新制度經濟學的經典之作」. I myself can’t do it, why is this not a good thing?

  24. 多倫多維園阿伯在網上的討論, 大多是此地無銀三百兩, 意見大可自由, 但事實卻不能歪曲.

  25. 網上的討論, 許多是指鹿為馬.

    人在做, 天在看.

  26. 又愛又恨: 黑白不分兄:

    當林毅夫以偷渡的方式離開台灣時, 他能肯定可以和妻及子重聚嗎? 他現在和妻子在一起, 不表示他當時離台的行為不自私, 這只不過是他運氣好或同時是台灣政府的寛大, 他才能盡一個人(一個男人)應盡的丈夫和父親的責任而已.同時可以想見, 他離台後, 他的妻子曾遭受了多大的社會/政治的壓力. 他有沒有做了什麼對台灣不利的事和以後他在學術上有什麼貢獻, 在他做那不負責任(妄顧自身安全, 離棄妻兒去偷渡)的行動那一刻開始, 已無可避免地成為不重要了.

  27. Cat Lover,

    In 60s-90s, there were a lot of people (husbands) swam from Shenzhen to HongKong, a lot of them died. The singer Roman Tam was one of them successfully swam to HK.

    Can we assume 林 had not discussed with his wife & family before he left? Can we assume his wife think his was “不負責任"? What we see are what 林 are now. 林 was never a criminal, while 林’s contribution to himself, his family, China & the world is vivid facts.

    Why we cannot forgive him, if he had done anything wrong at all? I am human, not a saint, I did a lot of wrong things, I do not expect other to be saint like, and I appreciate someone did bad thing can right oneself and contribute to the world. So if someone committed crime, put in prison, released, and we will never forgive?

  28. 又愛又恨:黑白不分兄:

    你將討論混淆了;

    1. 就我提出[林毅夫]的偷渡行為起碼的不妥之處是[自私], 那是他對妻子及家人的虧欠, 其他人根本沒有權去談原諒不原諒. 如果他的妻子在他行事之前已知悉其事, 並給予支持, 或在事前不知而其後她原諒了他那不負責任(那是必然的, 否則她也不會回到他的身邊), 那是她的偉大, 功勞應歸她. 她成就了一個對國家, 社會甚至是國際有貢獻的人物.

    2. 我沒有說他沒有貢獻或成就, 我只不過是說他的人(指他的某行為/操守)表面上明顯有失落之處(即使得到妻子之支持, 也是自私, 將壓力擔子放在婦儒身上, 非大丈夫之所為), 不值得我們推祟而已. 如果評價一個人, 只看成就/功業, 不問道德情操, 那會給世道一個壞影響.

    3. 你舉羅文和從內地偷渡到香港的人士為例, 與林作對比, 似有點不倫不類. 那些往香港偷渡的同胞, 是為求自由, 生計, 甚至可能是逃命. 現林提出的是投回祖國懷抱, 為國效力, 作出貢獻, 性質上明顯不同.

  29. Cat Lover,

    I agree with you on 1. & 3. 陳雲英 is also great.

    But 2. is something we don’t know, only the 林Lin’s know. But on the surface, what I can see is, 陳雲英 did not denounce the relationship when 林毅夫 left in 1979, and nothing happened to the 林’s family in Taiwan. Then the family reunited since 1986, and stay together ever since. Why we ,the outsiders, make a fuzzy on this as a “操守" issue? We can see 林毅夫 has not given up his wife.

  30. 真正人民的軍隊﹗

    http://www.wforum.com/newspool/articles/headline/111397.html

    霉國得咩﹖陰國得咩﹖呸﹗

  31. 用黑色鞋油來刷黑色皮鞋是正常的.
    用白色鞋油來刷白色皮鞋是正確的.

    用白色鞋油來刷黑色皮鞋是白癡的.
    用黑色鞋油來刷白色皮鞋是黑心的.

    用黑白不分的鞋油來刷赤色皮鞋是舔共的.
    貓用舌頭舔又黑又白的皮鞋是別有用心的.

  32. 陳冠希係淫民!
    亞嬌係淫民專隊!
    柏芝又係淫民專隊!
    BoBo梗係淫民專隊!
    楊永晴係真正嘅淫民專隊!
    美國唔得!英國都唔得!加拿大就得!香港就更加得!呸﹗呸﹗呸﹗
    P.S.希哥加拿大出生,香港成名。

  33. 不管白貓黑貓,會捉老鼠的就是好貓,會舔共的就是聰明貓,會舔又黑又白的皮鞋是長氣貓,狗捉老鼠多管閒事,龍管貓事,從此多事,多一事不如少一事,軒卿底事!

  34. 我自己長氣又多事,幹卿底事!

  35. An expression in professional sports:

    If you can’t win you may as well join them.

  36. 1. 這個世界並不是非黑即白. 一個人的觀點, 亦並不一定所有都是對, 或所有都是錯.

    2. 稱讚一個人/一個群體, 並不等同為此人面上貼金(擦鞋).

    3. 死硬不問對錯支持中國現中共政權者, 人們冠之名為[維園阿伯]. 但死硬不問對錯反對[支持中國現中共政權者]的人, 是否也值得一個名號, [街市阿嬸]或[另類維園阿伯]?

    4. 我們何時才能做到: {使真理事實, 雖出於仇敵, 不可廢也; 使理謬事誣, 雖以君父, 不可從也}? 這真的並不容易做到, 連理智如蘇博士者, 也曾公開表示[逢毓民必撐]!

  37. 多謝蘇博士, 你解了我一直以來我謎, 我時常想移民來加拿大的華人中為甚麼還會如此維護中共極權, 何不搬回大陸, 留在加拿大做甚麼, 他們為甚麼要移民, 來做二,三等公民, 原來他們心中真的沒有恨, 他們的價值觀是如此的!

  38. 係囉,係囉,食飽飯,冇野做,咪係度放屁囉,屁都有好多種架,有D砵一聲,放完就冇野,點都係自己D屁,臭極有限,不過有D就吸埋其他人D屁一齊放出黎,冤崩爛臭,幾乎想毒死哂所有人,重要監你聞先至慘喎,無知婦孺分分鐘中毒,死咗都唔知點解,呢度好多人職業係監人聞屁架。
    之不過咁,有屁聞亦未必唔係好事,聞完之後你就會珍惜空氣清新嘅好處。

  39. 心中有[恨],是好的! 有[恨]可維持一股怒火! 有怒火才好辦事!

    有[恨]亦有[怨],常存心中,必成大器!

    可惜是思維出了點問題!

  40. 好一個閨中怨婦,我見猶憐,終日怨恨懷心,命都短幾年,大器必成?必定提早見馬克思!

  41. cat lover,
    好贊成閣下這幾句說話:

    3. 死硬不問對錯支持中國現中共政權者, 人們冠之名為[維園阿伯]. 但死硬不問對錯反對[支持中國現中共政權者]的人, 是否也值得一個名號, [街市阿嬸]或[另類維園阿伯]?

    4. 我們何時才能做到: {使真理事實, 雖出於仇敵, 不可廢也; 使理謬事誣, 雖以君父, 不可從也}?

    中共所作很多我都不認同,但並不是凡中共所作的都是錯誤的 ,例如針對法輪功的某些做法我認為是對的

  42. 死唔死!無端端又俾條友食住上,重燒埋發輪瘋個撻添。

  43. 黑貓是什麼顏色? 黑色.
    白貓是什麼顏色? 白色.
    熊貓是什麼顏色? 又黑又白色.
    高竇貓是什麼顏色? 話乜色就乜色.
    舔鞋貓是什麼顏色? 隨癖好而變色.
    生滋貓是什麼顏色? 喺人都唔想識.

  44. Cat Lover,
    It seems you are beginning to understand why I named myself 又愛又恨:黑白不分.
    I care about what is right and wrong per the purpose done by anyone in this world for the sake of the wellness of the world never mind if it is done right by the right people, or done right by the wrong people. After all it is the will of the people that counts and God will judge. Go with your righteous heart and prevail. I’ll strive to help the shallows if so they seek for the depth, and strive to help the wrongs if so they seek for the righteousness. Your encouragement enabled me to go on the righteous path. Thanks a lot.

  45. 柏楊, 金庸 –

    時窮節乃現, 日久見人心.

  46. 1988, 查良鏞, 查濟民在草委會聯合推出了 “雙查方案", 已出賣了香港人, 現在才談金庸的人格似乎無關緊要, 遲了二十年.

  47. History is a guide to navigation in perilous times. History is who we are and why we are the way we are. – David C. McCullough

  48. 陳雲英 gave her view about 林毅夫 here:
    (Please note this was covered by Taiwanese 世界日報, I bet it carries some truth than anyone’s guess here.)
    http://www.worldjournal.com/wj-ch-news.php?nt_seq_id=1681821
    林毅夫夫婦會記者 笑聲不斷 預言中國經濟可再成長30年
    【本報北京七日電】「感謝媒體朋友們的關心,我和雲英其實是一對非常平凡的夫婦,做了一些該做的事情,大家對我們這麼關心,讓我們受寵若驚。在家裡,我們一樣要買菜、做飯、洗衣服,有時候兒媳婦忙,還要幫孫子換尿布、洗澡。」在7日的媒體見面會上,世界銀行副行長兼首席經濟學家林毅夫一席開場白,贏得了一片笑聲,也令整個見面會從一開始便洋溢濃濃的人情味。

    「關於他(林毅夫)的傳聞,其實有一部分是不實的,尤其是籃球。」中新社報導,陳雲英笑著澄清。她所指的,是坊間流傳的當年林毅夫抱著兩個籃球從金門泅水渡過台灣海峽來到大陸的傳聞。

    陳雲英打趣說,「沒有人能抱著籃球(林毅夫插話:尤其是兩個籃球)游過台灣海峽的,不信你們可以去試試。如果可以的話,那金門的百姓就全都游過來了,也用不著『小三通』了。」

    另據BBC報導,在談到中國經濟發展時,林毅夫說,中國經濟增長還可持續30年。他指出,無論視中國為他們的生產基地,還是一個不斷增長的龐大市場,都將繼續到中國投資。

    林毅夫對2002年父親去世時,不能赴台奔喪表示「難以面對」,並希望能赴台替父親掃墓。
    2008-03-07

  49. http://news.sina.com/oth/chinanews/301-101-101-102/2008-03-08/21192722805.html
    談到陳雲英的家庭,就不能不提她的丈夫。北京大學經濟學教授林毅夫成為第一位擔任世行副行長的中國人,第一位來自發展中國家的首席經濟學家。

    林毅夫“失蹤”時,陳雲英的兒子才三歲,她腹中又身懷六甲。她毫無怨言地承擔起了兩個孩子教育與撫養的責任。她一邊讀書,一邊撫育孩子。陳雲英多次都是剛給孩子做完飯,就接著跑進教室,身上散發出一股濃濃的中國菜味。

    在這種情況下,她拿到了一個碩士和兩個博士學位。不久前,她把自己的簡歷交給世行有關官員時,世行的官員笑稱,“世行來了一位第一夫人。”

    由於身兼不少社會職務,林毅夫很少在晚上十二點前回家。陳雲英卻從不抱怨,給了他最大的支持。“他是我頭上的光環,他越成功,我的光環越大!”陳雲英說。

    如今,他們的兩個子女也已長大成人。大兒子北京大學國際政治系畢業後,赴美留學獲得碩士學位;女承父業,從事金融方面的工作。“兒子去美國留學的時候,穿了北京大學的一件很大的T恤,上面寫著‘祖國萬歲’,還印有很大一面國旗。”陳雲英說。

    談起當年當兵游泳到廈門,陳雲英說,當年他們那一代,對台灣前途有很多選項,回大陸是其中之一,「他和別人唯一不同的是,他敢做。」陳雲英說,其實○二年返台時,還是有很多人對他們留在大陸的選擇有意見。

  50. 這是cat lover的高見"那也是他為自己個人的發展而作出的自私行為, 是不值得恭維的. 無可否認他判斷準確, 一早已知自己在學術上必有成就"

    不可救藥。

    79年的大陸是甚麼樣子 四個字可以形容"百廢待興" 林毅夫當時在台灣是甚麼角色"模範軍官" 居然會有高人認為林毅夫預見自己將會在一個 甚麼都不是的地方 在學術上必有成就?高!真是高!


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