發文作者:kahoo | 七月 12, 2007

安省政府應否徵收膠袋稅?

嘉賓﹕ 安省稅務廳長 陳國治


精彩重溫:

Part 1 (starts at 23:30):
http://www.torontofirstradio.com/archive.asp?filename=ampart12-7-12-2007.asf

Part 2:
http://www.torontofirstradio.com/archive.asp?filename=ampart13-7-12-2007.asf

Part 3:
http://www.torontofirstradio.com/archive.asp?filename=ampart14-7-12-2007.asf

Part 4:
http://www.torontofirstradio.com/archive.asp?filename=ampart15-7-12-2007.asf


Responses

  1. This is the first time I see these designer enviro-bags. They are truly a looker! For only HK$120, no wonder they were such a sought-after commodity in HK.

    The only thing is if I were to carry one of these in my hand when I go shopping, I may be hit by those you-know-what kind of guys . Is there a macho man’s editon of these bags?

  2. Sorry, typo: “Hit by" should read “hit on by".

  3. 很同意林狗在其 “維園阿伯" 的高見.

    係鬼環保! 係商家佬借環保來過橋找商機. It’s only hype.

  4. It’s a fad. I bet you in a couple years you will see these bags laid wrinkled on a driveway selling for $1 a piece on a saturday morning.

  5. People buy (or bid for) it because it looks fashionable or it would be a hot auctionable item.

    What about the underlying environmental awareness message! Those line up for it would doubtfully think too much of it.

    Perhaps, the extreme environmentalists should market another one very similar to this one, except with the phrase, “Feel free to beat me up if, I’m not a plastic bag, used for the right purpose".

  6. $1? you must be kidding. For a dusty straw bag, perhaps 25 cents!!

  7. When they are 25 cent each, shred these bags to make “I am not a plastic bun"

  8. 學香港某 d 網民講:
    排隊買 “我不是膠袋"的人, 才是真正最膠的! 而且非常 “硬膠"!!

  9. correction:

    Feel free to beat me up if, I’m not a plastic bag, used for the right purpose"

    should be

    Feel free to beat me up if, I’m not a plastic bag, NOT used for the right purpose”.

  10. plastic bag 有存在的需要,為何不花工夫改進材料呢?
    如果25cents 一個可以用很好的環保材料了。
    膠袋不只是在超市用,唔通你會帶埋膠袋去買衫買外賣去書局買書?

  11. 哦, 好簡單啫, 慢感人兄。

    買完件衫, 俾完錢之後「依撈七」就著埋件衫上身咪番屋企囉。

    去超市(e.g. 瘋 Singh 超市)重簡單。 連架車仔都推埋番屋企就惦哂。

    咁咪唔駛膠袋囉。

    其實上面講笑啫。 好多解決方法嘅。

    例如輕嘅貨品可以用 cellophane 袋。 你話齋, 俾得出兩毫半或以上喇, 可以用很好的環保材料架喇。

    重嘅同一大堆貨物嘅話呢, 就算自己冇帶袋或 Spaceage牌 嘅 collapsible/foldable 膠籃, 都可以用需負$10按金嘅 returnable basket (好似執咗笠間牛頭超市一樣); 或又可以有代客 load 貨上車報務; 再唔係就可以用番以前N年前d大雞皮紙袋, 包保 disintegratable.

    就算舖頭重要用膠袋, 只要政府一出重稅 (i.e. sin tax), 包保以後我哋唔會通街d樹都掛滿哂膠袋架喇。

    Cytodex 兄:

    呢個 “Feel free to beat me up" scenario, 就算個膠袋唔寫出嚟, d environmental extremists 都好快會咁做架啦。

  12. Many years ago when I was at school, I was told that it could take up to 100 years to disintegrate the plastic bags. It would be a common sense to reduce first before reusing and recycling them.

    Therefore, 獨孤兄’s and many others are correct to say that the focus must be on the raw materials that make the bags. The main ingredient should not be something that comes from petroleum any more. So, after so many years since I got out of the university, we have yet to see a more biodegradable bag that is sturdy and affordable enough to replace the plastic bags. Except, I see more translucent plastic bags that are too thin to hold, so some grocery needs to be double-bagged.

    Taxing is not a strong alternative (although the government would definitely favor and support it). More R&Ds are necessary. Personally, the plastic bag situation is like the energy crisis back in 70s. After 30 something years, has the North America learned anything from it? Will I wait for another 30 something years to come to the same conclusion for the plastic bags?

  13. 求丙兄,
    “買完件衫, 俾完錢之後「依撈七」就著埋件衫上身咪番屋企囉。"
    原來上次著住件心口寫住"Cheap,Cheap,Very Cheap"
    背後寫住"濺賣大出血",大熱天著住幾條底褲通街行,
    嗰個原來係你!早知我做幾個"I am a 雌膠袋" 俾你啦!

  14. Why not just go back to Paper bag?

    I recall plastic bag was a new thing in Toronto. They used to give shoppers brown paper bags. They are biodegrable.

    So, Instead of adding a new tax, simply ban plastic bag and go back to paper bag. This solves the environmental issues. Unless, it wasn’t the environment issue at all, but merely an opportunity the government saw in scaping some extra money off of its citizens.

  15. 瘋人兄,
    更不環保,要斬更多樹,而且重少少要double
    bag,雙手只能捧一個袋,多個也拿不到,地濕亦不
    能放落地!如果拖住個細路,又要搵車匙… !!
    所以我反對用紙袋。


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