發文作者:kahoo | 三月 17, 2008

李碧華: 血染的「沉默」

Dalai Lama offers to resign:
The Dalai Lama told Reuters and a group of international journalists he would resign as Tibetan leader if the situation veers out of control in Tibet:

Beijing responds to Tibetan unrest:
Premier Wen Jiabao accused what he called the ‘Dalai clique’ of orchestrating the unrest in Tibet:


西藏拉薩的喇嘛和藏民示威暴亂,三天來由打砸搶燒滿目瘡痍的血腥畫面,到鎮壓封城搜捕的白色恐怖,怵目驚心。

自 解放軍一九五○年開入西藏後,當地反抗事件一直未平息。五九年「武裝叛亂」,今年是49周年紀念,持續多日示威,更演變成近廿年來最大規模暴動,死傷人數各有說法,未經證實的是逾百人喪生。

此事觸發內地及海外藏民示威浪潮,衝擊公安局、華使館。但內地報章大部份保持沉默,即使二三百字的「新聞」,亦輕描淡寫。問北京朋友,都說央視只作簡短報道,不覺嚴重。消息後來網上散播,亦有限制。

在電視上見到拉薩的布達拉宮、大昭寺、八廓(角)街,已成封鎖區,這個我們以前到過,大受藏族風情及宗 教色彩吸引的熱鬧地帶,今日所見,是防暴武警、輕機槍、裝甲車、大卡車 … 巡邏搜捕,一片死寂。是否有過坦克輾痕?不清楚。只知未來一段日子,所有旅客被禁入藏,任何人不准與喇嘛接觸。

順便問:「那麼北京雍和宮有無相關反應?

六萬多平方米的雍和宮創建於康熙年間。為第四子胤禛晉封後之「雍親王府」,雍正帝即位取名「雍和宮」,內設「黏竿處」(特務機關)。乾隆時改作喇嘛寺,加添藏傳佛教氣氛。上回去,正維修迎奧。朋友道:「喇嘛也很沉默。


P.S. To 3月15號的有心人– thank you for lunch (you know who you are!). :-)

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Responses

  1. Tibet was a religious and superstitious nation, plus the feudal system, if nothing was changed, it will not last long on its own. It will eventually be taken over by some other countries, be it India or China… When a country is run by fanatic religious leaders, it will not be strong.

  2. 睇下美國CNN如何編輯圖片:

    http://www.wforum.com/newspool/articles/headline/112956.html

  3. 途人被人圍毆


    articles/headline/112985.html

  4. 抗議中共屠殺西藏人民!
    西藏應該脫離中國獨立!
    新疆應該脫離中國獨立!
    香港應該脫離中國獨立!
    台灣應該獨立!

  5. Riots in Lhasa

    http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/346412

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/03/15/tibet.unrest/index.html

    I think Chinese Communist Party may be suppressing the Tibetian religionous thinking too much. However, Dalai Lama, proponent of Tibet independent via peaceful action, shouldn’t he said something to reduce violence? It is both not human to suppress Tibet, whereas Hans folks in Tibet are being beaten to death, Hans shops looted,. Looting and killing is not part of peaceful, nor part of demonstration for anything.

  6. 「藏民都瘋了」 軍警旁觀搶掠
    【明報專訊】■邁爾斯(英國《經濟學人》記者)

    http://www.mingpaonews.com/20080316/gaa3.htm

    事件一下子發生,瘋了似的。所有漢人的店子都被藏人點火焚燒。裝甲車開來了。催淚彈。我看到有人被擔架脇抬走了,普通的藏民都瘋了。

  7. Mar 14th 2008

    http://www.economist.com/daily

    /news/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10870258
    An orgy of anti-Chinese rioting convulsed the Tibetan capital, Lhasa, on Friday March 14th… crowds hurling chunks of concrete at the numerous small shops run by ethnic Chinese lining the streets… at those Chinese caught on the streets—a boy on a bicycle, taxis (whose drivers are often Chinese) and even a bus.
    The rioting seemed primarily an eruption of ethnic hatred. Immigrants have been flocking into Lhasa in recent years from the rest of China and now run many of its shops, small businesses and tourist facilities. Tourism is the mainstay of Lhasa’s economy and has been booming in recent years, not least thanks to Tibet’s first railway link with the rest of China, opened two years ago. The visitors are mainly Chinese.

    There is big resentment too over sharp increases in the prices of food and consumer goods from the rest of China.
    Residents had mixed feelings about the violence. Some celebrated by throwing rolls of lavatory paper over wires across the streets, filling them with streamers intended to resemble traditional Tibet scarves. Others appeared aghast at the violence. As your correspondent spoke to a monk in the backroom of a monastery, a teenage boy rushed in and prostrated himself before him. He was a member of China’s ethnic-Han majority, terrified of the mobs outside. The monk helped him to hide.
    The violence was fuelled by rumours of killings, beatings and detention of Buddhist monks by security forces in Lhasa this week.
    A handful of riot police with shields and helmets (but no guns visible) patrolled in front of the Jokhang as the riots continued around them, while others stood in lines at the perimeter of the riot-torn area. But for many hours they made no attempt to intervene.

  8. Mar 16th 2008

    http://www.economist.com/daily/news/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10871821&top_story=1

    The Dalai Lama, Tibet’s exiled spiritual leader, has spoken of unconfirmed reports of up to 100 deaths. But there are no convincing accounts of the kind of bloodshed involved in the crushing of the Tiananmen Square protests in Beijing in 1989 or in the suppression of the last serious outbreak of anti-Chinese unrest in Tibet earlier that year.
    Tibetan administration’s Foreign Affairs Office visited this hotel in the riot-torn area. They offered to help arrange a flight out if needed, but gave no order to depart. The Economist remains the only foreign news organisation with official approval to be in Tibet.

  9. For centuries, the Hui have been spreading out and settling throughout China, primarily as merchants. Even during the Mongol Yuan dynasty, Muslims accompanied the Mongol tribute missions to Beijing in order to conduct trade. The Uighurs and Tibetan Muslims, by contrast, have remained isolated in their homelands. This difference is perhaps due to the Hui being descended from merchants and mercenary soldiers, whereas both the Uighur and Tibetan Muslims came to their present locations as refugees driven out of their homelands in Mongolia and Kashmir respectively. Thus, the present migration of Muslim merchants to Central Tibet is nothing new in Hui history. They are not being forcefully relocated to Tibet by the Han Chinese authorities, but are moving on their own initiative for a business motive.

    Western Hui have been moving not only into Tibet, but also all over Gansu and Xinjiang as the pioneers for Han Chinese settlement. They open restaurants and shops along all the roads, and as soon as there are a small number of them in any locality, they build a mosque – usually as a social gathering place to keep their communities together, rather than because of religious zeal. Not only do the Tibetans resent the Hui immigration; but so do the Uighurs. Although the Han Chinese army and bureaucracy have moved in first, Han traders and businessmen, lacking the pioneering spirit of the Hui, have only followed in their footsteps.
    Contrast between the Tibetan and Hui Mentalities

    Many Tibetans still have a nomadic mentality, with a fierce desire for independence, especially freedom of movement. In general, they dislike routine work. Even if they have shops, many will run them only seasonally, frequently closing them for long holidays, pilgrimages, picnics, and so on. Even in India, many Tibetans seasonally migrate to the Indian cities to sell sweaters, go on pilgrimage, attend Buddhist discourses, and only work part of the year. By contrast, the Hui, as well as the Han, are interested only in money and business, and they stay put in their shops and street stalls from 6 AM to 10 PM year-round without moving.

    The Hui, being very ingenious as well as industrious, have taken over the manufacture and sale of traditional Tibetan goods, and the Tibetans cannot, and do not even seem to want to compete. The Hui are making Tibetan-style jewelry, rosaries, and other religious paraphernalia, equipment for horses, knives, wool, carpets, musical instruments, shoes and noodles, as well as running the ubiquitous restaurants. The Han merchants come only later and sell mostly modern Chinese manufactured goods like toothbrushes and cheap Chinese clothing.

  10. 國內互聯網應該自治脫離中國監察控制 !
    海外華人社區傳媒應該脫離中國影響壟斷!

  11. Tibet Was, Is, Will Always Be A Part of China

  12. Tibet Was, Is, Will Always Be A Part of China

  13. 国际社会持续聚焦西藏局势
    (BBC中文网 2008年03月15日)

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/chinese/simp/hi/newsid_7290000/newsid_7298900/7298909.stm

  14. If Tibetans can leave in other parts of China and being treated equally as any other chinese, why Hans cannot leave in Tibet and being treated fairly by the Tibetans? There are large Tibetan populations in Sichuan, Qinghai, Gansu and Yunnan. Tibetans in China have the same level of freedom to move around same as any other Chinese in any other Chinese provinces.

    賴喇嘛指中國政府在西藏實行「暴力統治」,西藏面臨「文化滅絕」. The Dalai Lama — who fled his homeland 29 years ago after a failed uprising, said Tibet’s “ancient cultural heritage" is threatened with extinction by China.
    I think this is absurd, 西藏自治區有名勝古跡161處,其中國家級重點文物保護單位35處,有1700多座保護完好的寺廟, and with Dalai Lama , and all the Tibetans oversea promoting Tibet culture in books, course, seminars, web sites, organizations …
    If there is Tibet “cultural genocide", I think it only Dalai Lama, the might Living Buddha on earth himself can do this, since he physically ABANDONED his own people and his own home land 29 years ago. If he is a Living Buddha, I don’t know why he was being so chicken and needed to fled his own home land. Isn’t he supposed to be immortal that if he died, he would be resurrected by another Living Budda?

  15. 其實西藏獨立與否, 問問自己便一清二楚。

    如果當時日本皇軍成功征服中國, 中國人及其文物亦不會被共黨破壞至現今地步。 中國不但有統一語言 – 日文。 四人幫、六四等事件亦不會發生。 再者, 日本如果統治中國至今, 中國人的漏習亦可能到現在一掃而空。

    現在有誰贊成日本統治中國的, 請舉手。

    以下 youtube 片斷, 我亦希望開槍殺西藏人的不是中國兵, 而是「可惡」的日本人。

  16. 西藏、新疆、台灣、香港應由當地人民自決是否獨立。

  17. 8964

  18. Anyone want to bet if A1 and 1430 would discuss Tibet issue on their programme? If yes, it would be one-sided. I bet they would say no one is killed in the last few days!

  19. any history expert here could answer me, since which dynasty is Tibet part of China? Is it since Yuan Dynasty when Ginghis Khan started his empire?? 漢人 is not that aggressive

  20. I posted 8964 earlier, it was deleted, if it’s deleted again, that means there’s some kind of censorship here.

  21. oops, sorry, the msg is not deleted……my mistake.

  22. If Khadr was arrested in China, he would be executed long time ago. Nobody could save him. He’s lucky to be arrested by US.

  23. I never understand why Tibet is part of China, different culture, different races, totally not related at all. That’s why Soviet Union has broken up now.

  24. Chronology – Key dates in modern China-Tibet relations

    March 17 (Reuters)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSSP114310

  25. 1. 藏人有權告訴世人(包括中國政府)他們不希望與漢人同處一個國家之內的意願, 但不應以暴力的方式來表達.

    2. 達賴喇嘛在今次事件中的表現令人失望. 他不同意中國政府在西藏的政策, 自可向世人發表. 但他既自稱是宗教/精神上的領袖, 怎可不對發動暴亂的藏人加以指責. 即使他不是這次暴亂的幕後黑手, 但他還是欠世人一個交代, 他怎可以默許/容忍暴力, 傷害無辜的民眾.

    3. 那些指責西藏/中共政府平亂的人, 請問當有暴亂發生了, 政府應怎樣做, 袖手旁觀嗎?

    4. 話說回來, 剛收到消息, 西藏/中共政府著令記者離開西藏, 並檢查和取去/删除記者的採訪資料, 包括儲存在電腦上的. 當權者為什麼一方面說有外勢力在鼓動暴亂, 破壞民生, 另一方面卻不容許外地媒體報導. 給人的印象是曾做或將會做不能讓外界知道的不合理/不合法/不人道的行為.

  26. Anyone wants to know China/Tibet history:
    (pls note China was made up of a lot of individual kingdoms over its long history, Tibet is one of them
    pls note what UK & USA did)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet

    In handling the recent Tibet riots, I see China government maturely controlled the situation with minimum force, only thing not good is media transparency:

    Censor, confiscate media coverage is not right Western media never admit the colonization aggression of UK & USA (CIA) to east of Himalayas, and always mentioned China took over Tibet in 1959, which is not true. Western media bias is a problem, China needs to do more on this, instead of blocking the media coverage.

    Dalai Lama & Tibetans are famous and even loved for peaceful pursue of their vision to their home land and culture Tibetans do violence in Tibet, 4 provinces in China, and all over the world. All Tibetan “demonstrations" need every countries (not just China) to use FORCE to control the Tibetan violence. Tibetans in Tibet did not demonstrate, they beat/stoned/killed innocents girls, boys, men, women, burnt/looted shops. What did peaceful Dalai said?

    Suppress religion freedom is not right religion should not enter into separatism (Dalai did separatism before 1959) is not right. If religion enter into separatism, will be suppressed anywhere in the world.

    If Tibetan speaks different language thus not part of China, what about Quebec, which was totally French called New France, had nothing to do with the rest of the UK colony west and south to it.

    We, Canadian, pls note in 1970 October Crisis of the FLQ. Trudeau, PM of then Canadian government, invoked the War Measures Act, civil liberties were suspended. Soldiers marched into Montreal, and curfews thus no media. By 29 December 1970, police had arrested 453 persons with suspected ties to the FLQ. Some detainees were released within hours, while others were held for up to 21 days. Several persons who were detained were initially denied access to legal counsel. Of the 453 people who were arrested, 435 were eventually released without ever being charged. Trudeau correctly suppressed violence separatists, and maintained Sovereignty. By the subsequent decline of FLQ, it showed/shows Canadian supported/supports what Trudeau did, and distasted FLQ.

  27. 唔知幾時輪到駐港解放軍平暴呢?果D人7月1 日軍營開放入去同獸兵慶祝回歸,有冇諗過呢班獸兵有一日出動同你冚家鏟。

  28. 首先, 請尊重自己, 尊重自己的自己.
    然後, 請想想, 解放軍他們每一個也是人, 也是其他人的母親, 父親, 兄弟, 姐妹. 請尊重他們不是獸兵, 否則被服務的, 如你自己, 你也是禽異獸. :-)

  29. 一顆子彈擊中了小丑兵, 小丑兵最後撒退了.

  30. I love a strong united China, I feel proud. I thought of the Middle East, if we try to justify any land conflicts with historical explanation, it will be as clear as mud. Tibet was not able to claim independence when China was much weaker, now China is a world power, may as well forget about it.

    History is not meant to be clear cut, look at the various lands that US is still holding onto, Hawaii, Peurto Rico…

    So, I say, live on, move on!

    Based on what I understande from my readings, I don’t think Tibetan peasants had a good life when they were preChinese government. Only the monks and the high society had a good life. The peasants had no education, no decent accomodation, insufficient nutrition, no medical help…

  31. 為虎作倀,屠殺國民,唔叫得做獸兵,不如叫佢地做妖獸兵喇,或者殺人王獸兵都幾好,你諗唔諗到好D嘅名咁呀。話時話你咁叉鐘意擁共,舊時係大陸九成九做過獸兵定嘞。

  32. 晶, right on.
    It is always the privileged class/group of people due to their own selfishness/ambition for power/territorialism, seek to provoke/use ordinary people for their own course. Some has good cause for the good course, a lot were the other extreme. Throughout the history of mankind, this was what happened, everywhere in the world. However, the question is how the conqueror treats the conquered, and how the other countries, due to, again, their own selfishness/ambition for power/territorialism, apply how much inference/interference, to the conquering country. Note, UK & USA wanted to partition Tibet out of China due to their colonial mind was a fact and happened many years before China gathered enough strength to take perimeter of Tibet in 1959. Pretty much like what happened to what RCMP did to the March West in 1873, RCMP was then called North-West Mounted Police. If you have not heard of the March West, do a Google search. RCMP was to conquer aboriginals’ lands, and the other country trying to get the pie was USA.

  33. 抗議屠殺: Write with some ideas, substance, otherwise you will look like a fool. 100% rude accusations with no intelligent facts is not convincing.

  34. 又愛又恨:黑白不分:

    喂!快D開香檳慶祝囉,睇吓你偉大祖國幾有新聞自由,趕走哂D記者添,快D去搵吓美國有冇D咁上下嘅野黎同你祖國遮醜喇。

    http://pshweb02.881903.com/apps/newsBoss/html/news/20080317/2008031712370129800.htm

    本港最少六家電子傳媒的記者,今早在西藏首府拉薩被要求離開,記者協會對此表示不滿,認為違背了去年一月起實施的《北京奧運會及其籌備期間港澳記者採訪辦法》,不可接受,憂慮西藏當局的做法,予人掩蓋事實的感覺,不利國家的開放形象。 記協強調,本港記者因應事態 …

  35. 韃賴喇嘛與納粹黨的聯繫
    Dalai Lama’s Connection with the Nazis and promotion on Anti-Semitism

    http://www.newspiritualbible.com/index2

    http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Index.htm

    http://www.cchere.net/article/1484725

  36. 晶:
    你講D野真係有見地,果條“抗議屠殺”簡直不知所謂,直情傻呼呼,都係你最啱,D西藏佬直情唔係路,大陸獸兵直頭殺得佢地少,再殺多D就好咯。家陣咁講法對唔對你胃口呢?妖獸你喇!

  37. 很長時間沒有聽過 Steak Sauce Itchy Head.
    很難集中關注焦點. D激進友仔不停地糾正討論話題字眼. 台灣選舉應稱為中華民國自由地區選舉. 稱呼台灣意味著獨立國家. 又糾正不要用中共兩個字. 用中國政府會較為恰當. 窒住哂. 最終沒有時間去真正討論西藏問題. 難以忍受.

  38. 評論時事要盡量保持冷靜和理性, 在分析西藏事件時, 回答以下的問題:

    1. 在這次西藏事件中, 反對中共政府的藏民在西藏所作的行動, 是和平示威嗎?
    2. 如果類似的行為發生在別的國家, 包括歐美等國家, 政府會採取甚麽行動?

    持擁護中共政府立塲者, 則要同時回答以下的問題:
    為什麼西藏/中共政府要驅逐記者離開西藏?
    外國/地記者存有偏見這一答案不能接受. 因為香港記者也被驅逐, 今時今日的香港記者, 蓄意污衊中國政府的可能性極低.

    持支持達賴喇嘛立塲者, 則要同時回答以下的問題:

    達賴在這次事件的表現如何? 他這次的言論符合一個精神領袖的標準/要求和符合他的一貫非暴力主張嗎?

  39. Why didn’t 達賴喇嘛 stop the riot? Why didn’t Jesus Christ stop all these killings? They should be burnt in hell together.

  40. Jesus Christ在這次事件的表現如何? 符合他的一貫非暴力主張嗎?

  41. 在知道西藏/中共政府驅逐外地記者的舉動, 在腦海中浮現以下的思想:

    一個人可以在以下的情況下做事出現錯誤

    1. 在處理那事件時真正/誠認為自己所作出的行動是對的, 不料事實上是錯誤的(起碼是在其他大部份人是這樣認為).

    2. 在處理那事件時心知所用的手段是不合情理/法律/甚至人道 (起碼是在其他大部份人是這樣認為), 但為了達到自己本身的利益, 而決定要這樣做.

    西藏/中共政府明顯是處於第2種情況下.

    西藏/中共政府說那些反對他們的人, 誤會/污衊他們對西藏的政策, 卻不容許外地記者/人士親自去瞭解他們所說的事實真相, 唯一理由是指外地傳媒存有偏見和別具用心地攻擊他們. 為什麼全世界的外地傳媒(包括他們稱之為同胞的香港記者)都採取與他們敵對的立塲? [光明磊落]這詞何時可以在中共掌權者的字典上出現?

  42. 亞晶:

    睇真你寫D野發覺你真係狗嗡到無倫。中共統治西藏幾十年,暴亂不絕,不得人心,不論統治者有幾強大,西藏人民只要有決心抗爭下去,必會成功,全世界人民都會支持。
    你舉夏威夷和波多黎各做例子,果度有發生人民反抗統治者動亂咩,夏威夷波多黎各人民享受緊國泰民安好日子,感謝美國政府都黎唔切,驚美國唔要佢地咋,你都傻嘅!
    西藏人民以前D日子咁苦,而家咁﹝幸福﹞,點解而家重要攪動亂呢?自己諗吓喇,白癡嘅!

  43. 哈哈哈!達賴喇嘛同納粹黨都扯得埋,有冇得再攪野D呀,整返D陳冠希同達賴喇嘛嘅野黎睇吓都好喎!哈哈哈!

  44. 保持冷靜和理性, 在腦海中浮現狗嗡無倫。

  45. selective news = monopolized news = dictatorship = lying = conspiracy = retrogression = no democracy = no future

  46. China in Tibet = US in Iraq….haha…but i don’t know what advantages/benefit China gets from Tibet, the only thing is India won’t do anything stupid to China……

  47. 李丙君:

    從閣下的留言, 我理解為一位十分支持達賴喇嘛者.

    相信沒有人否認達賴在藏人(特別是反對中共政權和要求獨立者)有一定的影響力, 今次藏民的暴力[抗爭](不知導火線是什麼), 達賴如果不是幕後策劃者, 以他一貫主張以非暴力手段爭取/達致他所持的理念, 是否應該指責/勸喻參與行動者, 回到非暴力的手段上呢?

    請尊重他人的信仰. 不要作不禮貎/理性的挑釁/攻擊.

  48. how it’s going, pls write something about this topic, we like to know your opinion
    are u back in toronto?
    best regards

  49. Simmering Resentments Led to Tibetan Backlash
    Jim Yardley
    The New York Times
    (March 18, 2008)

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/18/world/asia/18china.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

  50. 抗議屠殺: Now you are talking, not just blank rude swears…keep it up ;-)! When law and order of a society is disturbed, what is the government supposed to do? Sit back and give them more ammunitions? Similar situations have happened to Canada and U.S., and all responsible governments will restore law and order asap, that’s what the army is for.

    Does Tibet only want all the material and prosperity from China, yet stay as an independent country? This deal sounds unreal.

    So your idea of China is to have the 4 main tribes separate from China, leaving the Han tribe? Please share your vision.

    I agree that China still need to move forward in terms of its government policy. But so long as I feel China is making an effort, and improving over time towards the modern world, I still love to see a strong and united China!

  51. 達賴對拉薩的示威暴亂的反應:

    http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/347267

  52. 如果不是剛開始瀏覽這留言區的網友和稍有留意與中國事務相關的留言者, 應知本人對中國現政府的觀點和立場. 本人亦曾在這留言區就西藏問題, 與一網友討論/辯論. 我對最近發生在西藏的動亂事件有點困惑, 現請教同是支持西藏人民爭取權益的網友:

    1. 這次事件的目的是什麼, 導火線又是什麼?

    2. 為什麼要採取暴力的行動?

    3. 即使中共政府不公平對待藏民, 發動這次事件的人有權傷害無辜的平民嗎?

    4. 憑什麼資料/證據去確定在這次事件中已發生鎮壓甚至屠殺? 如何界定維持社會秩序和鎮壓的準則?

    5. 達賴在這次事件的角色是什麼? 作為一個宗教/精神領袖, 只顧指責中共政府, 卻對進行暴力行動的同胞, 引致損傷, 甚至傷害無辜, 如視若無睹, 不加指責或勸阻, 那是不是不義?

    我們經常指責/嘲笑盲目支持中共政權的人士, 但我們是否應該盲目支持反對中共的人士呢? 容我套用龍應台女士的說話: [請用文明來說服我].

  53. Cat Lover // March 17, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    李丙君:

    從閣下的留言, 我理解為一位十分支持達賴喇嘛者.

    相信沒有人否認達賴在藏人(特別是反對中共政權和要求獨立者)有一定的影響力, 今次藏民的暴力[抗爭](不知導火線是什麼), 達賴如果不是幕後策劃者, 以他一貫主張以非暴力手段爭取/達致他所持的理念, 是否應該指責/勸喻參與行動者, 回到非暴力的手段上呢?

    I am fully support Cat Lover’s opinion

  54. 如果中國今次使用美國製造的坦克去鎮壓暴亂, 也許美國將會在這個問題上保持閉嘴. 畢竟, 他們是客戶吖嘛.

  55. 韃賴喇嘛與納粹黨的聯繫
    Dalai Lama’s Connection with the Nazis and promotion of Anti-Semitism

    http://www.newspiritualbible.com/index2

    http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Index.htm

    http://www.cchere.net/article/1484725

  56. 歷史記錄片

    韃賴統治下的恐怖西藏與納粹黨

    http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=2I2bvs3uZ4c&feature=related

  57. I thought CNN has not shown the whole picture which results in under-estimate the situation.

    From my perspective, it is way more serious than what CNN has been reported. Nobody seems to know the fact since the China Gov’t has suppressed the issue.

  58. 首先聲明:本人對於藏獨問題,保持中立。

    由於小弟有收集新彊及西藏古錢之嗜好,所以有很多機會與本地西藏人接觸,或從他們的店鋪購買錢幣,言談中他們大多數都支持藏獨,而支持者從工作或從商所瞣的錢財,除了日常基本支出外,其餘的都用來支持藏獨,義無反顧地支持,他們所持的理據是為甚麼西藏人要被華人/漢人所統治,正如華人/漢人被滿州人統治也搞革命,最終也革命成功而推翻滿清政府,他們覺得大家文化,言語,文字,種族都完全不同,被統治有被人欺凌及壓制的感覺,所以他們是很有决心及很團結地去搞藏獨,如果共產黨今次暴亂處理得不妥當,相信不同程度的暴亂會陸續有來!!

  59. 第十四世達賴喇嘛1950-1959在西藏執政,納粹德國結束於1945年,第十四世達賴喇嘛同納粹黨有乜關係?一目了然,你重有冇可以抺黑達賴嘅野未拎出黎呀。

  60. Dalai Lama threatens to ‘resign’ over Tibet violence

    (Times Online, March 18, 2008)

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3574672.ece

    The Dalai Lama cannot technically resign as he is revered as the re-incarnation of his predecessor, but he has often suggested that he will not be re-incarnated again.

    His comments appeared to be designed to re-assert his moral authority and to quell the unrest that has spread to neighbouring Tibetan areas as Chinese forces impose a security lockdown on Lhasa.

    Prominent radicals, led by the leader of the Tibetan Youth Congress, criticised the Dalai Lama yesterday for advocating non-violence rather than independence or a boycott of the Beijing Olympic Games.

  61. 几分鐘前的成都 成都發生的西藏人砍人 組圖

    【极度血腥,儿童不宜】

    http://www.wforum.com/newspool/articles/headline/113110.html

  62. http://www.cloakanddagger.de/home%20page%20items/Hitler%20and%20the%20Dalai%20Lama.htm

  63. Let’s have a Tibet soccer team to play China national team, I’m sure Tibet would beat China easily. Resolve this on the soccer field. haha…

  64. 成都被藏人恐怖襲擊﹐燒燬平民巴士

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787232.html

  65. http://www.geocities.co.jp/WallStreet/1733/aum/aum-let1.html

    麻原彰晃教祖からダライ2539;ラマ法王への手紙

    宝島30、1996年5月号に、麻原教祖からダライ2539;ラマ法王への書簡が公開されました。 「アメリカ人に読ませると、”英語は完璧。外務省の文書よりよっぽど上手い。”」のだそうです。 であれば、この手紙から学ばない手はないですね。原文と翻訳文(宝島30編集部訳)を載せます。世界论坛网

    His Holiness the Dalai Lama
    Thekchen Choeling
    Macleod Ganj 176216
    Kangra District, Himachal Pradesh
    India

    The Dearest and Most Venerable His Holiness the Dalai Lama
    (もっとも親愛なる、もっとも尊敬するダライ2539;ラマ猊下)

    His Holiness, if I possessed an ordinary vision which enables me to see the outside world, I would not disregard the law and convey such an important message to you by means of a letter. Being as I am, however, I have judged that this is the best means I have at present and decided to make a reort of it in writing. May His Holiness forgive my discourtesy and grant me the honor of your reading this report of mine.

    猊下、もし私が通常の視覚を持っていて、外の世界を見ることができるなら、私は法を無視して このような重要なメッセージを手紙で貴殿に伝えるなどということはしなかったでしょう。しかし ながら、私はこのような状態(目が見えない)であるため、これが私が現在持っている最善の方法 であると判断し、書面でその報告をすることを決意しました。猊下には、私の非礼をお許しいただき この手紙をお読みいただく光栄を私にお与え下さいますようお願い申しあげます。

     You may have heard of the account from Khamtul Rinpoche, one of the greatest lamas of the Tibetan tradition, and here I report to His Holiness myself of a boy named xxxx who was born as my son.

    チベットの伝統の中でもっとも偉大なラマ僧の一人、カムトゥル2539;リンポチェ師からすでにお聞き 及びかもしれませんが、私の息子として誕生した次男(本文実名)について、自ら猊下にご報告 申し上げます。

     xxxx was born on March 11, 1994 and the following is the vision I had upon his birth. I saw Potala Palace in a field of flowers. There was an announcement, which, I believed, belonged to a dakini, saying, “Tibet has perished."

    次男は1994年3月11日に生まれました。そして以下の記述は、彼の誕生に際して、私が見た ヴィジョンであります。私は花で覆われた野原の中に、ポタラ宮殿を見ました。「チベットは消滅 した」という告知がありました。それはダキニによるものだと思われます。

     I also heard a voice of an earth god on the day he was born. My wife was not with me then and I was not informed of the birth until the following day. The earth god said, “It is a boy. There is no mistake about it. Prepare everything new for a boy." I had not prepared anything special for him since there were many hand-me-downs from his older brother and sisters. Upon hearing this I immediately instructed one of my oldest disciples to prepare new boy’s items and bring them to the boy.

    また私は、彼が生まれた日に、地の神の声を聞きました。そのとき私の妻は私と一緒におらず、私は 出産についてその翌日まで知らされませんでした。地の神は言いました。「男の子だ。絶対に間違い ない。その子のためにすべて新しいものを用意せよ」。
     私は彼のために何も特別なものは用意していませんでした。なぜなら兄や姉たちのおさがりがたく さんあったからです。これを聞くと私はすぐに私の最も古い弟子の一人に指示して、新しい男の子 のための品々を用意して、その子のところへ持っていかせました。

      My third daughter also had a vision of him when he was still in the mother’s womb. In the vision she saw a boy flying in spurts over a snowy mountain range with his legs crossed in the full-lotus posture. A low male voice said, “Panchen Lama." The voice continued, “Tibetan Buddhism is finished. I have come to rebuild it, though it may not be possible…" The boy also recounted his personal history mumbling lengthily that it seemed like an hour to her. She could not comprehend all of it but the most impressive story was the one just before he died. He also talked about his imprisonment. The talking was mostly done by the voice but when it wanted to emphasize something, his mouth opened.

    私の三番目の娘(アーチャリー)も、彼がまだ母親の体内にいるときに彼のヴィジョンを見ました。 そのヴィジョンの中で、彼女は男の子が、足を蓮華座に組んで、雪の積もった山脈をピョンピョン 跳ねながら飛んでいるのを見ました。男性の低い声が「パンチェン2539;ラマ」と言いました。その声 はさらに続き、「チベット仏教は滅びた。私はそれを再建しにやってきた。が、それは不可能かも 知れない...」。この男の子はまた、自分の個人史を詳述しました。長い間話していたので、彼女 には一時間もかかったように感じられました。彼女はそのすべてを理解することはできませんでしたが、 いちばん印象深かった話は、彼が死ぬ直前の話でした。彼はまた投獄されたことについて話しました。 この話はほとんど声だけでなされましたが、何かを強調したいときには、彼の口が開きました。

     This daughter of mine is good at guessing the sex of a coming baby or the day when it will be born. She once came to me and said, “Aren’t we going to have a baby?" when only I knew about my wife’s pregnancy. She does not have any preconceived ideas and describes her visions just as she sees them. She once said, “The baby was held by someone who had a face of an elephant." She was going to the kindergarten in Japan then and did not know anything about Ganesha.

    この娘(アーチャリー)は、生まれてくる赤ん坊の性別や生まれる日を当てるのが上手です。彼女 はかつて私のところへやってきて、「赤ちゃんが生まれるんじゃないの?」と言いました。そのとき は私の妻の妊娠について私しか知らなかったのです。彼女は先入観をまったく持たずに、見たとおり に彼女のヴィジョンの内容について語るのです。かつて彼女は、「その赤ちゃんは、象の顔をした人 に抱かれていた」と言いました。彼女はその頃日本の幼稚園に通っていて、ガネーシャのことは何も 知りませんでした。

                   
    <翻訳文だけです>

     まだこのほかにもう一つ理由があります。私の妻は彼を産んだとき、まったく出血しませんでした。 このことは医師や看護婦が証言しました。看護婦もこのような汚れのない赤ん坊は見たことがないと 言っていました。彼の片方の耳は平ら、というよりほとんどつぶれていました。パンチェン2539;ラマは 投獄されている間に、片方の耳がつぶれてしまったと聞いたことがあります。私の息子の場合は、 それとは反対側の耳で、一週間ほど内側にカールしていました。

     Since I was unable to see physically, several of my disciples compared his picture with the video of Panchen Lama. They as well as many others were astonished with the resemblance. I enclose some of the pictures with the letter so that His Holiness can see it himself. The Pictures were taken when he was two weeks old.

    私は自分の目で見ることができないので、私の弟子たち数人が彼(息子)の写真をパンチェン2539;ラマ のビデオと比べてみました。彼らも、そしてその他の多くの人達も、(二人が)似ていることに驚き ました。聖下がご自分の目で確かめられるように、この手紙と一緒に写真を何枚か同封いたします。 写真は彼が生後二週間のときに撮ったものです。

     Although xxxx does not seem to like my intention ( every time I tried to report this to His Holiness he had a high fever, and I had to give it up three times), I felt I must do so because of the relation between Tibet and China, and the role of Panchen Rinpoche there, be it for the better or worse, and the aspiration prayer of Panchen Rinpoche related to Shambhala.

    次男は私の意図が気に入らないようですが(このことを猊下にご報告しようとするたびに、彼は高熱 を出し、三回も報告をあきらめなければなりませんでした)、チベットと中国の関係、そしてパンチェン2539; リンポチェのチベットにおける役割--将来その地位が高くなるか低くなるかは分かりませんが--、 又、パンチェン2539;リンポチェ(パンチェン2539;ラマ)のシャンバラへの熱烈な祈願などの理由により、 そうしなけばならないと感じているのです。

     Khamtul Rinpoche’s auspicious vision also strengthened my conviction, a copy of which I shall enclose in the letter.
    In consideration of the above, may I report to His Holiness most humbly that I am convinced that xxxx is a reincarnation of Panchen Rinpoche.

    Respectfully yours,

    Shoko Asahara

     カムトゥル2539;リンポチェ師の祝福に満ちたヴィジョンもまた、私の信念を強いものにしました。その コピーをこの手紙に同封いたします。
     上記の理由を考慮いたしまして、次男はパンチェン2539;リンポチェの生まれ変わりであると確信して おりますことを、おそれながら猊下にご報告させていただきます。
                                     麻原彰晃

  66. http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=2I2bvs3uZ4c&feature=related

  67. 李婆婆連同丙人騎老虎笑姣姣放屁抗議毒蛇屠殺

  68. Comments from Ottawa Citizen

    ttp://world.on.cc/osnews/can/review_main.html

  69. 3 more sources of comments

    http://world.on.cc/osnews/aus/review_main.html

    http://world.on.cc/osnews/eas/review_main.html

    http://world.on.cc/osnews/int/review_main.html

  70. 來睇下咩是“新聞自由”

    http://newschecker.blogspot.com/2008/03/who-lie-about-xizang-tibet-violence-and.html

  71. 即使某些西方傳媒存有偏見, 故意尋找對中國政府不利的資料以作報導, 甚或曾捏造事實來污衊, 但禁止外地記者採訪是解決這問題的有效方法嗎? 那只會得到反效果, 給人口實和無限的想象. 再者, 難道所有外地傳媒都是沒有專業道德, 作妄顧事實的報導嗎? 那不太可能吧! 最後, 讀者完全不能分別真實和捏造的消息嗎?

    如果處理事件合乎常規/常理, 為什麼要害怕/阻止外地記者採訪? 堅持不讓外地記者採訪, 最起碼的原因是讓自己有一個客觀環境, 在[必要]時採取不依常規/常理的行動!

  72. 【兒童不宜】

    人頭法器,祝壽用人皮,雙修,奴隸等

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787370.html

    人皮細路

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787376.html

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787455.html

    砍手,砍腳﹐挖眼,剝皮等

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787445.html

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787449.html

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787452.html

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787460.html

    人腳骨號

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787453.html

  73. 班蛋散幾專業噃,唔似普通料喎,不過對於我黎講,呢D野全部都係癈料,慳D駛喇。

  74. 成都西藏人砍人!!!

    http://www.wforum.com/newspool/articles/headline/113110.html

  75. Funny, always see quotes from toronto star lately, but suddenly, nobody dare to quote from the star on Tibet. This is selective quoting. 一榻糊塗 思想混亂

  76. Lock up all the terrorists, especially those in Afgan., young and old……

  77. True religion is real living; living with all one’s soul, with all one’s goodness and righteousness. – Albert Einstein

  78. 以被殺農奴頭顱制作的骷髏碗

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787979.html

    挖掉雙眼的藏民

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787969.html

    西藏密宗法器:處女腿骨制作的人骨笛

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787980.html

    人皮,人頭鼓

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787985.html

    西藏“阿姐鼓”是人皮鼓

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787991.html

  79. 頂你咪再放埋D咩血腥斬人相上黎喇下,係咁放,作死你呀,我食緊飯架!

  80. 又含又吹 七彩繽紛雙解

    含血噴人,吹牛,資料齊全,五花八門。
    亞嬌同希哥口舌交纏,睇到鼻血流流。

  81. 唔上黎一排﹐乜呢度又"雜"咗咁多﹗硬係每一頁都會有三兩個人起度自說自話﹐長篇大論﹐狂燥發作﹐一係就狂貼文狂貼圖﹐乜都齊哂﹐搞到就黎有D瘋人院feel..

    起新聞見到達賴上電視個回應﹐好奇一問﹐乜「轉世活佛」都有得「resign」﹐好似打工仔咁話辭職唔撈就唔撈架咩﹖

  82. 辭去流亡政府領袖的職務,辭職後他還是達賴喇嘛。

  83. 殘忍

    點解有的人可以甘殘忍﹐見到的暴徒劈友殺人可以視而不見﹐重要話好知道﹖

    試想一下如果個是你父母﹐兄弟﹐姐妹﹐又或者是仔女被人劈到橫尸街頭的人見到就話“作死你呀,我食緊飯架!”調頭走﹐你有咩感覺﹖唔好以為如果你系加拿大人﹑港人咩人物人去到西藏就好安全﹐的狂徒見到你一樣照劈﹐的內臟一樣會流晒出來。

  84. 俾我係達賴就立即辭職. 可以消除民憤 . 這個喇嘛職務反正是一輩子 . 話唔定中共整番個比老慒董更高位置的筍工.到時做埋二五喇嘛入人大就更高層次啦 !

  85. 各有所好,你自己喜歡就得嘞,今晚攞狗血撈飯食,不如試吓牛雜生吃,雞腸免洗,連屎一齊食,重要一唔食一路睇血淋淋嘅相,等你過足癮。

  86. Please screen out 抗議屠殺’s postings! Absolutely unacceptable!

  87. 殘忍君:

    依我的看法, 你所指責的網友不是沒有惻隱之心, 而是他們根本不相信那些圖片是真的. 這裏所說的不是[真實]有兩個含意. 第一, 那些圖片是拼砌偽造的. 第二, 那些暴民不是真暴民, 是別有用心人安排而作出的行為. 以下是在這留言區一網友對不利達賴/藏民圖片/資料的回應, 可以看到不信任的程度.

    • [班蛋散幾專業噃,唔似普通料喎,不過對於我黎講,呢D野全部都係癈料,慳D駛喇。]

    對於認為不是真實的東西, 又怎會有同情/憐憫/真實情緒的反應呢? 進一步的反應就是拒絶觀看了

  88. 晶:
    你唔駛咁勞氣,人地貼咁多血淋淋相片上黎,你都若無其事,我寫兩句就選擇性抗議,至啱用食狗血撈飯塞住你把口。

  89. 都廢嘅!關殘忍唔殘忍咩事,又關我老豆老母咩事!多舊魚!我冇話信唔信D相,又冇話邊個啱邊個唔啱,我淨係話整鬼你起度post完又post,同一批血腥暴力相貼完又貼,慌死人地睇唔到就走寶咁,仲要全部分哂題,又咩人皮燈龍,咩處女骨笛,慌死人地唔知道有幾血腥!渲染血腥,強調暴力,製造恐怖!仲要起度亂咁吠!真係黐膠花!

  90. 撐塵廳長,反對渲染血腥,班友做得太露骨,太專業,太有組織,為抺黑而抺黑。塵廳長你係濁水中清流,有你鎮住妖魔冇得橫行。

  91. 收嗲啦

    呢都的冷血言論收嗲啦﹐被人以為的香港都是甘冷血無知羞家死啦。

  92. Most anti-intelligence statement from Dalai Lama:

    http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/347267

    “I say to China and the Tibetans: Don’t commit violence," he told reporters. … “It’s possible some Chinese agents are involved there," he
    said. “Sometimes totalitarian regimes are very clever, so it is important to investigate."

    If he believe in Mahatma Gandhi “Father of the India." who truly believed in peace and harmony , who would never said things like Dalai even in the worst situations against colonial British. This is a shame for Dalai to make such remark. If he is the LIVING buddha, he should know, not guess, if “"It’s possible some Chinese agents are involved there,". In 8964, the chinese agents, if any, could not make the people went violence, how come it works on the Tibetan monks & Tibetan rioters (everywhere in the world, not just China)?
    From this I know Dalai was chicken & fear of death (since he fled his country in 1959, when a lot stayed to face the communist party’s PLA), thus his is not a real LIVING Buddha, and he pretends to be a peace-maker. Linking his name to Gandhi is an insult to Gandhi.

    I’d also like to ask why Chinese government has to sensor media, just let them pour into, let them face the rioters.

  93. 呢度有班友刻意唱衰/抺黑D喇嘛,不知有何居心!?

  94. For the last few days, a couple of “strange” thoughts came into my mind.

    Apparently, there were different stances on the media coverage with the West being pro-Tibetan and the Chinese being what they do best. After all, violence is violence and there is no dispute about it. However, one has to ask himself/herself what makes the seemingly peaceful Tibetan riot. Was it something leading to these unrests?

    On a similar note, I can’t help thinking of some TV footage when an elephant stampeded on his trainer. At the end, the trainer was killed while the elephant was shot to death. What is the moral of the story? It is believed that the elephant and his companions had been subject to cruelty for a long time. Surely, the trainer believed that his superiority over the life of the elephants; for “he” owned all animals. To him, they were just like other animals in the one big harmonious “circus”. Among all things, the trainer wanted the elephants to obey any orders given to them no matter how ridiculous or unnatural they seem from the animal perspective. Given foods and shelter, the elephants failed to show their appreciation and occasionally started making troubles.

    Unlike their trainer who has been materialistic and environmentally-unfriendly for last few decades, the elephants are always more peaceful and nature-loving. The trainer who ironically acted more like an animal than human failed to realize that “he” is also a species in animal kingdom. That’s why I swear not to go any circus shows and so disapproved of the way the animals are being treated there.

  95. Those religious/ritual utensils and instruments made from human parts are merely part of Tibetan history. If Tibetans still practice them today, they should be denounced. If not, it’s no big deal. Every culture has its dark history. If one must insist casting some barbaric image over Tibetan, he/she should be equally ashamed of all the gruesome torture methods employed by any ethnic Han emperors in the Ming dynasty.

  96. 抺黑機器又全力出動了! 刷完然後插 . 問你怕未 .

  97. real 喇嘛 and real Saint, have halo, there is NO way to 抺黑 real 喇嘛. 光者自光 :-)

    If I understand correctly the trainers are the imperial colonist countries between 16th century to today, such as Spain, Portugal, Holland, British, Germany, USA,… And the elephants were/are the poor folks being colonized, like the all the aboriginals in the N/C/S America, Asia, and present day’s Iraqis? Pls note, daily Iraq civilian casualty is 450+, due to the great USA invasion.

  98. Dalai’s Skull Bowl Made From A Slave

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787979.html

    “Disobedian" Slave Got Eyes Plucked

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787969.html

    A Virgin’s Bone Made for Tibetan Buddism Cemeromies

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787980.html

    Skin Drums, Made From Human

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787985.html

    Dalai’s “A-Jie" Drum Made From A Tibetan Girl

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787991.html

  99. In fact, dalai treated his tibetan slaves like “things".

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787979.html

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787969.html

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787980.html

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787985.html

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115787991.html

    No wonder he has “mercy" for his subjects, because they became “immortal" decorations in his room.

    How beautiful.

  100. Joke of the day! -"but the photo CLEARLY says it was taken in Nepal…"

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115789291.html

    Very funny, indeed. LOL

  101. 我發現喇,呢一個板裡面根本來來去去都係同一條友起度發花癲!仲要一人分飾八十幾個角色,自唱自和,以為冇人睇得出!正茂丙黎!不停咁張貼D血腥圖片link上黎,忽中忽英又忽然日文果個來來去去都係同一個人,猛咁起度宣揚大中國﹑大漢族主義,煽風點火,講到尾原來又係D一個發雞盲嘅親共派,我挑!分分鐘都唔知係咪就係以前成日上黎搗亂果個AL佬!你咁喜歡暴力抵制呀,血腥鎮壓呀,番去祖國做解放軍啦,番去服務共邊黨啦嘛!做咩唔走呀,下?移咗民過黎加拿大就起度大大聲發嗡瘋,口沬橫飛,又唔講道理,一味起度貼圖,不知所謂!

  102. It is so painful to see that because of you, Washington Post has degraded to such a despicable level that is even lower than the worst form of tabloid journalism. And the ridiculously tenuous reasons you used to defend yourself and the Post are equally painful to read on. Deception, chicanery, and dry rot are the words coming to my mind after being reminded of the truth of the matter surrounding your report, and shill, scoundrel and shameless scribe are the titles that I will endow upon you after reading your hopeless defense. A lie is a lie is a lie, no matter how much high tech trickery is behind it and how you justify it. Admit it, and be a decent human being, my friend. This pathetic piece of news report of yours is nothing but an embarrassment — an embarrassment to your education, an embarrassment to your career, and an embarrassment to your conscience!

  103. 睇完大部份理性網友嘅理性言論﹐最合心意係cytodex果個大象與馴獸師嘅比喻﹗
    正所謂凡事都有因果﹗今日藏民唔服﹐頻頻暴亂﹐要追索源頭嘅話﹐都係中共自己種下嘅因。老共永遠就係咁﹐一味靠打靠壓﹐一個唔順超就一排子彈掃埋黎﹗冇錯﹐今次藏民暴亂係好失控﹐係好暴力﹐而政府要維持治安所以強行鎮壓都係唯一做法﹐之但係又唔反省下點解成件事會走到黎今日呢個「不能不強力鎮壓」嘅地步﹖
    當年班共佬咩「和平解放」西藏﹐大條道理﹐但你回看﹐中共比咗咩「和平」﹐比咗咩「解放」比班藏民﹖你要佔領人地肉體都唔夠﹐又要強行佔領埋人地精神﹐人地D宗教﹑文化思想你都要夾硬沾手﹗好似人地自己好地地揾自己活佛﹐你又要夾粗幫人地"委任"埋活佛﹐呢D咪自己攞黎衰格﹖
    仲有﹐今次呢場暴亂同20年前果場暴亂﹐點解會發生﹖咪就係一班藏僧起度好地地示威﹐但老共睇唔順超所以就"鎮壓"﹐搞到激氣民憤﹐幾十年D怨氣一次過爆哂出黎﹐原本和平都比你逼到唔和平! 禍根唔係你自己一手種下﹖
    唔係要評對錯﹐因為呢D嘢永遠都只得主觀感覺﹐呢個世界係冇一個人係一生出黎就「應該」要隸屬另一群人﹐一切都係權力﹐但就係睇你點拉扯﹐點平衡。先唔好評人權評對錯﹐單單係起政治技術嘅層面黎睇﹐中共呢幾十年來處理西藏問題嘅手法係徹底失敗﹐搞到一pat屎咁﹐係不能否認嘅事實﹗

  104. 霄九里兄:

    從你的留言, 看出你認同這一次西藏事件, 最初是和平示威.

    [今次呢場暴亂同20年前果場暴亂﹐點解會發生﹖咪就係一班藏僧起度好地地示威﹐但老共睇唔順超所以就”鎮壓”﹐搞到激氣民憤﹐幾十年D怨氣一次過爆哂出黎﹐原本和平都比你逼到唔和平!]

    請問你從那處得到這方面的資料和證據. 至今為止, 我無法找到一張圖片, 見到藏民/喇嘛在進行[和平示威]. 煩請告知資料來源. 以悉疑團.

  105. 塵廳長: Do you think that guy is Mr Lee? That dumb a__ who called in to challenge Wong Yuk Man on air? Same old Uncle Victoria Park. and like to quote this quote that….blah blah blah….

  106. 都唔知邊個李生唔李生,總之就係蛋散啦!D作風真係攞你老命架,唔係講笑!

    cat lover,你又黎想揾D咩證據呀,你求其上一個算係有可信性嘅新聞網度睇番3月初嘅新聞,都見到個大概係點,基本上成件事嘅過程好清楚!

    3月10日,近300名喇嘛參加遊行活動紀念抗暴49周年,由哲蚌寺出發步行到拉薩市中心布達拉宮,但途中被警方阻攔,50幾60人被捕,
    3月11日,近600名藏族僧人從寺廟遊行到拉薩警察局,要求釋放前一天示威時被捕的僧人,但「在抵達警察局後,抗議者遇到了數千名武警的攔阻,武警後來向抗議者發射催淚彈試圖驅散他們。」
    你睇BBC新聞網又好,定係自由亞洲電台D訪問又好,根本成件事就係源於班藏僧起3月10號個紀念遊行示威,跟住差佬一黎就驅逐又摧淚彈又拉人,激到D激進派發癲,搞成而家咁! 你信又好唔信又好,唔洗同我講喇,不過你憑正常邏輯諗下都知,班人做咩無端端自己突然間約埋爆出黎就周圍發癲放火打人?唔係比D警察一黎就粗暴打壓,會搞成咁? 學大契話齋,唔係咩都要證據!比到張相你睇咁又點?有時呢D嘢自己諗都諗到!如果你要證據嘅話,我對老共嘅認識就係證據!我歷來對老共嘅認識就係,一班手無寸鐵嘅學生起天安門度絕食靜坐,佢地都可以出動坦克車同機關槍鎮壓!仲有咩唔得?
    偉大嘅毛主席都話,呢個世界冇無緣無故嘅恨!物極必反,班藏民今次作出嘅暴行,當然係錯,不過,係被老共逼出黎嘅!呢煲嘢一開始就注定係燶嘅,89爆過一次,而家又爆一次,只不過係重演,如果老共死唔肯變,以後都會繼續重演! 所以就算證明到比你睇今次係藏民衰先定警察衰先,咁又點?
    哈!老共呢D,叫做自己柯出黎嘅屎要自己食番!西藏呢壇嘢有排佢搞!

  107. 你自己睇喇!呢個係BBC由3月10開始嘅新聞:

    3月10日﹐抗議遊行前夕
    西藏流亡人士開始返鄉抗議遊行http://news.bbc.co.uk/chinese/trad/hi/newsid_7280000/newsid_7287100/7287193.stm
    >>西藏流亡人士組織說,本次從達蘭薩拉到西藏的長途抗議行動,是八月北京奧運會之前數次抗議活動之一。

    他們強調將採取和平方式進行﹔不過,他們不願透露會從哪些途徑闖關。

    組織返藏遊行活動的丹增宗珠說:這次遊行的全部目的就是讓我們這些藏人回到自己的家鄉。我們離開家鄉已經很久了,我們被剝奪了在自己的祖國生活的權利,這是一次返鄉遊行。 」

    3月10日﹐抗議第一日
    中國証實拉薩發生藏人抗議活動

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/chinese/trad/hi/newsid_7280000/newsid_7289100/7289148.stm

    >>目擊者說,"有9個喇嘛和兩個尼姑,11個人都是藏族人。他們揮舞著西藏旗,並在週圍散發傳單。"

    他說:"當時在場的派出所警察沒有採取行動,後來武警來了,他們拘捕和毆打了抗議的人,很多圍觀者在哭喊。"

    除此之外,自由亞洲電台還報道說,拉薩哲蚌寺的300多名喇嘛打算遊行到市中心抗議,但在拉薩市西邊的公路檢查哨所遭到武警攔阻,有50至60名喇嘛被逮捕。

    新華社報道引述西藏一位高級官員的話說,確實有300名喇嘛進入拉薩試圖示威,但在當局的“勸說下”都已離開。

    自由亞洲電台報道稱,目擊者在檢查哨看到當局派出了10輛軍方車輛、10輛警車和幾部救護車。

    3月11日﹐抗議第二日
    拉薩藏人連續兩天上街抗議

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/chinese/trad/hi/newsid_7290000/newsid_7291700/7291754.stm

    >>近600名藏族僧人于周二(11日)從寺廟遊行到拉薩警察局,要求釋放前一天示威時被捕的僧人。

    自由亞洲電台引述目擊者說,一些參加抗議的喇嘛高喊,"釋放我們的人","我們要求西藏獨立"等口號。

    報道說,在抵達警察局後,抗議者遇到了"數千名"武警的攔阻,武警後來向抗議者發射催淚彈試圖驅散他們。

    3月13日﹐西藏人連日大規模抗議多人被捕

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/chinese/trad/hi/newsid_7290000/newsid_7295300/7295392.stm

    3月14日﹐拉薩抗議升級 “有人聽到槍聲”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/chinese/trad/hi/newsid_7290000/newsid_7296400/7296491.stm

    >>西藏首府拉薩已連續數日發生大規模藏人抗議活動,最新報道說有人焚燒警車和商店,目擊者稱在拉薩聽到了槍聲。

    睇到冇?頭果幾日係示威遊行,頂多係激動D嘅遊行,但係去到3月14,即係第4日先至出現第一篇「抗議升級至暴亂」嘅報道! 冰封三尺非一日之寒!

  108. “Buddhist monks in Tibet begun a hunger strike and two others attempted suicide as troops surrounded monasteries in a government crackdown on widespread protests against Chinese rule it was reported on March 14, 2008."

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet

  109. 如果甘是“公正報導”的話﹐

    呢個世界就唔存在“公正”了。

  110. 大陸豬:

    每日一字,跟我學廣東話。
    狗嗡無倫,打鑊﹝金﹞嘅你
    ﹝甘﹞草演員
    唔係﹝咁﹞樣,可以點樣

  111. 廣東話是乜話?

    廣東系邊到?

    人頭豬腦。

  112. 辛苦哂塵廳長嘅"詳盡"報道。加多句﹐Cat Lover﹐你要記得而家起度放火搶劫掟爛嘢果批暴徒﹐並唔係一開始遊行示威果班人黎。
    開頭紀念49周年遊行果D﹐大部份係藏僧﹐不過你從暴亂果D電視親聞都可以見到﹐起條街度發癲果堆入面都唔多見有僧侶。係兩批人黎﹐後者係一撮唔再聽達喇之笛嘅激進派。

  113. 總之要屈班藏僧搞暴亂都好易 . 搵班臨記, 自編自導自演喺自己電視新聞喥播.類似老共以前投訴別國偽造64片段. 做乜都得啦, 班記者都趕走哂.

  114. 藏獨暴徒縱火 美聯邦市政官員致歉
    總領館強烈譴責這一恐怖行為

    當地時間3月20日清晨4時左右,中國駐舊金山總領館簽證廳大門被不明身份者縱火,警方迅速到場調查取證,無人員傷亡。簽證延遲四十五分鐘進行。總領館強烈譴責這一恐怖行為,要求警方迅速破案,并加強對領館的安全保護。

      沈偉廉介紹,從總領館監控系統的錄像資料看,二十日清晨的蓄意縱火案有四人參与。他們在簽證廳大門外點燃自制燃燒品后逃离。火勢持續几分鐘后自行熄滅。舊金山警方大約八至十分鐘后抵達現場。事件發生當日,舊金山市市長紐森先生主動約見中國駐舊金山總領事高占生。紐森市長首先向中方表示歉意,認為這樣的事情完全不應該發生。

      高占生總領事表示,中方已向舊金山警方提出加強保護中領館的要求,希望警方迅速調查,及時向中方通報情況。

      紐森市長說,他對中領館的安全狀況很關切。如果中領館有進一步要求,他將加緊落實。

      美西時間二十日,中國駐舊金山總領館還約見了美國國務院外交安全局駐舊金山辦公室的負責人。該負責人也對縱火事件的發生表示歉意,并承諾協調舊金山警方,加強對中領館的保衛。

      沈偉廉在舊金山總領館負責政府關系与新聞工作。他說,這起蓄意縱火事件性質惡劣,是針對中領館的恐怖行為。据沈副總回憶,他常駐舊金山三年期間,沒听說其它外交使團遇到過類似事件。

      此外,他也提到,几天前,當地一伙“藏獨”分子在舊金山總領館門前示威,并向總領館投擲石塊,造成領館正門上方的玻璃破裂。

  115. 中國領事館變成過街老鼠添

  116. 我諗可能我哋俾金庸小說同港產片醜化哂d 西藏喇嘛喇! 佢哋係唔識用「血滴子」殺人, 又唔識用少林武功對抗敵人嘅。 佢哋普遍只係一群和平僧侶, 比起現今所謂少林寺嘅僧人, 又炒股票又巡回演出抓銀, 神聖及對宗教及民族有理想及有乘擔得多! 回教(極端份子)用自殺式炸彈傷害敵人, 但喇嘛及僧侶, 則用自殘生命, 絕食及引火自焚, 希望感化敵人…

    如果一個國家用仁治國, 真的以民為本, 唔係得把口嘅, 咁附近小國, 亦會轉投其旗下亦轉唔切喇! 如西藏要獨立, 軍費何止以千萬計, 如果西藏真正有獨立, 互取互利, 實為兩國之福!

  117. 蕭若元分析西藏問題,講得唔錯,值得推薦。

    [audio src="http://www.myradio.com.hk/download/Shiu/20080319/20080319a.mp3" /]

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  118. 《廣角鏡》拉薩 悼遇害少女

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115790458.html

    拉薩5位花季少女命喪暴徒之手(組圖)(1)

    http://news.tom.com/2008-03-21/OI27/13060537.html

  119. http://news.tom.com/2008-03-21/OI27/12873541.html

  120. 過街老鼠早知今日何必當初

  121. 真係邪,聽住偽姑娘的可怕節目時睇埋蛋散的恐怖圖片,令人毛骨悚然.蛋散真係適合做佢嘉賓.

  122. 塵廳長: you are my idol!

  123. 我覺得中國政府,應該係甚麼都不要做,只要幫漢人逃離及封鎖重要出口,讓那些恐怖埸面留給記者去作證,等佢地打到七七八八之後,未入去埋單最好。最多給人話不人道見死不救,總好過給人判處"屠殺及種族清洗"的無期徒刑。亂係佢地攪出來的,再唔想給中國統治也不能到處放火打人搶劫,這種行為任何一個國家也不接受,但今天這班暴民卻成了英雄;在美國打開的戰爭,死的無辜百姓多的事,卻沒有人去理會,難道他們不是人嗎? 那些美國警察開槍殺死那些手無寸鐵的疑犯,難道美國警察真法官嗎???總然之,美國殺的人是第死的,中國去平亂,卻是一身駡名!!! 這個世界已經是典倒事非的世界了!

  124. 阿叔: 即刻落台,唔好…唔好係度玩嘢 !
    凸賴:冇需要 .
    阿叔: 你冇需要玩嘢呀?我搞奧運 .
    凸賴:國際老二 !!!
    阿叔:喂唔好叫老二啊,公平架,我唔搞你 , 你唔搞我,點解你要咁樣做?點解你要咁做丫?
    阿叔: 喂,每個國家喺國際有壓力,你家下做D唔公平既野係咪要同你傾計呀? 
    凸賴: 我覺得你咁樣既意思唔係同我傾計 .
    阿叔: 我係同你傾計有冇掂你啊 .
    凸賴: 你想我點樣? 
    阿叔: 我想你點?你同我收手道歉!
    凸賴: 哦,唔好意思 .
    阿叔: 做咩唔好意思啊,係你岩定我岩? 
    凸賴: 你想囉彩姐 .
    阿叔: 吓? 
    凸賴: 你想囉彩姐,唔好意思啊老二! 
    阿叔: 我唔係囉彩 .
    凸賴: 你想囉彩既姐 .
    阿叔:嗱第一,而家你四圍訪問唱衰我 , 我冇出聲,你做咩要,要話我霸
    道,我好簡單丫,我冇騷擾你,岩唔岩啊?姐係點樣?
    凸賴: 冇事發生囉,就係咁簡單 .
    阿叔: 你有咩事發生丫?姐係你想點先,唔係嗱,我,我就想同你解決 .
    凸賴: 事情解決左,就係咁簡單 .
    阿叔: 未解決!
    凸賴: 解決咗 .
    阿叔: 未解決!!
    凸賴: 解決咗 .
    阿叔: 未解決!!!
    阿叔: 大家出黎解決咗佢ㄚ,簡單,你唱衰我 , 我冇話你,你話我咩先?
    凸賴:霸道專制, 騷擾到我啲靚!
    阿叔: 喂,你唱衰我, 我有冇話你影響我形象 啊?大家都係領導人,大家都一樣咁要面架拿,係啊,我有冇話你啊?點呀你?
    阿叔: 你好好打咩你!Delay No More!
    阿叔: 你係咪好打先?
    阿叔: 我有壓力 , 你有壓力 , 你做咩挑釁我啊!
    凸賴: 唔好意思囉 .
    阿叔: 咩唔好意思啊,你道歉丫!
    凸賴: 對唔住囉 .
    阿叔: 大聲啲 .
    凸賴:係咁多, (小聲地) 自立門户都唔得 .
    阿叔: 嗱以後唔好拿,警告你啊下 .
    阿叔: 囉隻手黎啦!
    凸賴: 唔需要 .
    阿叔: 唔需要姐係點啊,唔妥啊?
    凸賴: 我道歉左 .
    阿叔: 你道歉左咪渣手囉,道歉唔渣手做咩啊?
    凸賴: 唔需要嗱 .
    阿叔: 做咩唔需要啊?唔渣手姐係未掂 .
    G8: 哈哈哈哈…… 睇下你八月點死…
    阿叔: 喂!你道歉左,渣,渣渣手唔渣,下,未解決喎!
    凸賴: 好,我順下你,順下你意 . 如果呢壇嘢我搞佢唔掂, 最多我辭職!
    阿叔: 好,嗱,我話比你聽以後唔好 .
    阿叔: 嗱第二個dup你架 , 話比你聽 .
    凸賴: 有緣我地會相聚 .
    阿叔: 嗱以後唔好 .
    阿叔:唔好再示威暴亂, 我唔好騷擾你ok,我地大家有壓力,好唔好啊?
    凸賴: 好啊 .
    阿叔: 你想隻dup就隨時 .
    凸賴: 唔需要 .
    阿叔: 唔需要算數 .
    凸賴: 君子動口不動手 .
    阿叔: 唔係呀,你動口你都好撚麻煩啊,你示威暴亂我話比你聽,我鎮壓封城搜捕你啊 .
    凸賴: 唔通我怕你咩?
    阿叔:XYZ … 你頭先道左歉… 冇問題,不過你唔下台即係你騷擾我 . 我未騷擾你丫嘛 , 我先至 Delay No More .
    阿叔: 嗱大家算數啊 .
    凸賴: 不過鎮壓唔好囉黎亂用啦 .
    阿叔:暴亂唔鎮壓邊有 face 啊?趕走哂班記者 , 删除記者啲採訪資料 , 唔得啊 ! 我鍾意face !
    凸賴: 係咁多?
    阿叔:我啲子彈又唔係射向你果度 .
    凸賴: 係咁多,警告你!
    阿叔: 你警告我乜野啊,老友,而家你仲警告我 . 渣左手你警告我,即係點先?
    凸賴: 事情已經解決左 .
    阿叔:解決你又警告我咩姐,我好大壓力想話練過,你解決,你話解決左你又 …… 又警告我咩姐?
    阿叔: 何必呢 , 岩唔岩啊,老友,無謂架,大家,岩唔岩啊,大家都渣左手 .
    凸賴: 我話你知,呢啲係我地兩個人既事,唔好搬啲靚出黎 .
    阿叔:搬人出黎就搬人出黎,你鍾意小就小 , 我鍾意小就小,小人呢啲就冇害既,小丫小丫,小 ! 打你兩鎚咩 .
    阿叔:岩唔岩啊,咁解決左就解決左,唔好警告我,你警告我做咩,警告我我唔撚驚,我好撚大壓力啊你知唔知啊?
    阿叔:你明白未啊?你唔好警告!算數!明白未啊,你警告我即係未攪掂,大家算數啊,渣左手,好冇呀?
    凸賴: 得啦,唔想同你再講 .
    阿叔: 你警告我做乜撚野姐,你係咪唔算數丫?
    阿叔: 妖!(聖火點起)
    凸賴:接聖火啦 !

  125. December 1989, US invade Panama to catch Panamanian military leader Manuel Noriega. All media were banned, no access. Until the US army staged a fake operation of entering the Noriega’s compound, the media were allowed to cover this US military staged propaganda of victorious actions.

    Of course this can’t be compared to the Tibet situation, as Tibet is part of China, and I can only stress that I’d like to see all ethics in China are treated well, and all ethics in China treat the other ethics well (in this case innocent Hans were beaten to death, looted by Tibetans). During the past there a lot happened in Cultural revolution, but this applied to ALL ethnics , and everywhere in China. If China need to have a brief media control in order to put the situation under control is understandable, as this happen to everywhere in the world during crisis, even our dear PM, Harper, does not allow reporters to enter his turf. :-)

  126. 一動不如一靜: you are right!
    中共成日都要"關門打狗"呢鋪癮﹐遲早害死佢。美國佬班契弟仲唔乘乘機機入位咩﹗

  127. 嘩,發雞瘟呀,發雞瘟呀!!人黎呀,快D比塊碌柚葉我洗眼!!樓上3月23日5點02分又有人放D屁落我對眼度!一塌糊塗,完全唔知發生咩事,連文化大革命都可以拉埋黎講,凸賴阿叔,不如你幫我快D圓寂,等我早登極樂,遠離老共嘅沼氣池!

  128. 講得好!!! 好! 呢D先係講道理,出自個腦嘅,唔係屎眼嘅!如果老共有番D智慧,都應該識得聽取意見,採取番反映到一個政府應有嘅高智慧,高氣量手法!而唔係淨係識掃場趕客拉人,刪埋門打狗,然後就起度亂咁揾D屎潑人!

    《關於處理西藏局勢的12點意見》

    1. 當前中國官方媒體的單方面宣傳方式,具有煽動民族仇恨和加劇局勢緊張的效果,對維護國家統一的長遠目標非常有害,我們呼籲停止這種宣傳。

    2. 我們支援達賴喇嘛的和平呼籲,希望遵循善意、和平與非暴力的原則妥善處理民族爭端;我們譴責任何針對無辜平民的暴力行為,強烈敦促中國政府停止暴力鎮壓,呼籲藏族民眾也不進行暴力活動。

    3. 中國政府宣稱「有足夠證據證明這是達賴集團有組織、有預謀、精心策劃的」事件,我們希望政府出示證據,並建議政府邀請聯合國人權理事會對證據和事件過程、傷亡人數等進行獨立調查,以改變國際社會的相反看法和不信任心態。

    4. 我們認為類似西藏地區中共領導人所說「達賴是一隻披覑袈裟的豺狼、人面獸心的惡魔」那類文革語言無助於事態的平息,也不利於中國政府的形象。我們認為致力於融入國際社會的中國政府,應該展示出符合現代文明的執政風貌。

    5. 我們注意到,拉薩發生暴力行為的當天(3月14日),西藏自治區負責人就宣布「有足夠證據證明這是達賴集團有組織、有預謀、精心策劃的」,這說明西藏當局早知道暴亂即將發生,然而卻沒有有效阻止事態發生和擴大,這其中是否存在瀆職,應該進行嚴肅的調查處置。

    6. 如果最終不能證明此次事件是有組織、有預謀、精心策劃的,而是一場被激起的「民變」,則應該追究激起民變並且難造虛假情報蒙騙中央和國民的責任者,認真反省教訓,總結經驗,避免今後重蹈覆轍。

    7. 我們強烈要求不對藏族民眾搞人人過關和秋後算帳,對被逮捕者的審判必須遵循公開、公正、透明的司法程式,以達到各方面心服口服的效果。

    8. 我們敦促中國政府允許有公信力的國內外媒體進入藏區進行獨立的採訪報道。我們認為,目前的這種新聞封鎖,無法取信於國民和國際社會,也有損中國政府的誠信。如果政府掌握真相,就不怕百般挑剔。只有採取開放姿態,才能扭轉目前國際社會對我國政府的不信任。

    9. 我們呼籲中國民眾和海外華人保持冷靜和寬容,進行深入的思考。激烈的民族主義姿態只能招致國際社會的反感,有損於中國的國際形象。

    10. 1980年代的西藏動盪局限於拉薩,這次卻擴大到藏區各地,這種情的惡化反映出對藏工作存在嚴重失誤,有關部門必須痛加反省,從根本上改變失敗的民族政策。

    11. 為了避免今後發生類似事件,政府必須遵守中國憲法中明列的宗教信仰自由和言論自由的權利,讓藏族民眾充分表達他們的不滿和希望,讓各民族國民自由地表達對政府民族政策的批評和建議。

    12. 我們認為,必須消除民族仇恨,實現民族和解,而不是繼續擴大民族之間的分裂。一個國家避免領土分裂,首先在於避免民族之間的分裂。故而,我們呼籲國家領導人直接與達賴喇嘛對話。我們希望漢藏人民消除誤解,開展交流,實現團結,無論是政府部門,還是民間組織和宗教人士,都應該為此做出努力。

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  129. 霄九里兄:

    1. 塵廰長引BBC的報導為證, 那很好. 但請問你在認為西藏這次事件是由和平示威而起前, 已看到如BBC的報導. 還是如塵廳長所言, 是基於[歷來對老共嘅認識]呢?

    2. 我不是不相信BBC或自由亞洲電台的報導. 但是, 為什麼我看到的其他傳媒的報導(除了大紀元), 絶少(如果有的話)提及如BBC 報導的3月10日至3月14日所發生的[和平示威]事件. 他們全都被中共收買了/或自我審查?

    3. 我從電視的新聞報導中, 看到不少藏僧暴力破壞店舖的場面. 當然, 大家可以說那些只是激進派或甚至是中共派人假裝的.

    4. 面對激進藏民的暴力行為, 西藏/中共政府可以什樣做? 在西方國家, 遇到類似事件, 政府使用暴力, 可以接受(在另線提到魁北克解放陣線的例子, 有網友便認同政府可以暴力反擊). 為什麼西藏/中共政府不可以?

    5. 中共縱有百般不是(當然包括對西藏政策), 但是否應不問情由, 以成見(歷來對老共嘅認識)為基礎出發, 去看(分析)事件呢?

  130. 塵廳長 for Prime Minister!!

    Did canadian police ever kill any protestors? I don’t know……

  131. P.S: don’t count those killed by TASER, hehe…

  132. I agree with 給北京的12點意見 [塵廳長轉貼] // March 24, 2008 at 4:25 pm, but this ONLY show the things that Chinese Government has to work on. How about the Tibetans (seems including folks dressed in monk clothes) that beat/threw stones at innocents, looted shops? This is not demonstration, this is crime in any countries’ law standard in the world.
    Thus I agree with Cat Lover // March 24, 2008 at 7:29 pm.

    I think ethnics conflict has become a world-wide issue in this post-colonial era. Some historians say this is the reverse-colonization, where African, middle-east, .. folks immigrate to Euro & NA. The riot happened last year in France shown this. Even in Canada, we are seeing a lot of the issue about ethnic attire.
    China as a multi-ethnic country, I think how to gently and transparently handle ethnic issue is what China has to do, and so do the other countries in the world have to do.

  133. 救藏族小孩 拉薩女子遭割耳

    14日下午,在八廓街附近開廣告裝飾店的馮碧霞看到了濃煙,許多人拚命奔跑,她趕緊讓丈夫把店門關上。門才關一半,忽然一個20歲左右的藏族女孩拽著一個穿著校服的七、八歲藏族男孩往店裡鑽。兩個人嚇得瑟瑟發抖,不停地說:「救救我們吧!」

    馮碧霞一邊安慰孩子一邊領著他們上樓。透過窗戶,她看到外面有十多個不法分子到處砸磚頭。等了一會,外面漸漸平靜了,她以為安全了,準備將兩名藏族孩子送回家。豈料門剛打開,一夥不法分子便將她的丈夫和兒子掀翻在地毒打,馮碧霞則被幾個暴徒殘忍地割掉了耳朵,兩名藏族孩子乘機逃脫。

    躺在醫院病床上的馮碧霞說:「我雖少了一隻耳朵,卻救了兩條命!」

  134. 這次暴徒們完全是有預謀,事先標記好了洗劫對象

    http://www.wforum.com/wmf/posts/1115793671.html

  135. do you think china would release the real statistics of their political prisoners? don’t be so naive, you blind people.

  136. cat lover,拿,死唔信!你睇喇,3月11日一開始嘅時候嘅和平示威電視片段!就係咁!如我所講,一班喇嘛起街頭漫步!

  137. 塵廳長 // March 27, 2008 at 12:18 am

    Having you watch and listen carefully?
    min shots
    0000 was a tourist shot at Potala in Lhasa
    0009 the Chinese Foreign Ministry press conference.
    0040 in Himalchal Pradesh, India, the Bir Tibetan Society
    0052 in NewYork until the end of clip

    There was no any other shot in Tibet. Come on you can do better than the media.

    Btw, please watch today’s TVB news, has coverage on media in a Tibet temple, the monks openly complained about a lot of things including no freedom, were not allowed to leave the temple, … right in front of the Chinese officials who lead the media to the temple. I like this, Chinese government should do more media openness like this.

  138. 咁都得? 真是BBC咯!

    -08年最新流行網絡語言

  139. 塵廳長: remember this is a big propaganda machine, what you see is not what you get. It ain’t no Canada

  140. VOA or Voice of America

    Everyone beware.

  141. Every country does thing to control/monitor its citizens, Canada is not exception. Even political leader was monitored:
    René Lévesque (August 24, 1922 – November 01, 1987) was a reporter, a minister of the government of Quebec, Canada, (1960 – 1966), the founder of the Parti Québécois political party.
    RCMP spies eyed René Lévesque from his days as a globetrotting broadcaster in the1940s through his turbulent career as a pillar of the sovereignty movement and ascension to Quebec premier in the 1970s

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2007/11/06/levesque-rcmp.html

  142. The world biggest propaganda machine, you can hear it every night at 7pm on AM1540, and afternoon AM530, and AM1430.

  143. These are the evidence:

    http://www.anti-cnn.com/

  144. sigh….use the same name lar, it’s the same person posting the same thing……

  145. China the biggest propaganda machine, everyone is brain-washed


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